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May 30, 2005
France | French Voters Reject First EU Charter/ Links, updates
In a stunning rejection of the European Union's latest ambitious move to unite its 25 nations, French voters shot down the bloc's first constitution, dealing a potentially fatal blow to the charter and humiliating President Jacques Chirac.

Sunday's referendum in France, a cradle of continental unity for more than half a century and the country where much of the constitution was painstakingly written, threatened to set back plans for broader European integration by years.

About 55 percent of voters opposed the treaty the first rejection in Europe. France's repudiation came ahead of Wednesday's referendum in the Netherlands, where polls show even more resistance to the constitution, and had EU leaders scrambling to do damage control.

More:

How the yes voted plummeted

France and Europe reel from loud French 'No'

France shatters EU unity

Blogs writing about this story:

No Parasan (in English and French)
Samizdata
Chicago Boyz
Instapundit (with a slew of links)
Outside the Beltway
The Road to Euro Surfdom



Posted by Michele at May 30, 2005 07:22 AM | TrackBack
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The people have spoken. The bastards.

Posted by: Achillea [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 31, 2005 10:07 AM

Well, this is a bad news for the ones who stand for a federal Europe, as I do. But it is not a disaster. Not all can go always well. In such a complex process as the one which goes towards an European integration, drawbacks and problems must be expected. The French people didn’t choose the good path, in my humble opinion. They punished Jacques Chirac by using the EU constitution referendum as a main battle weapon, being the rest of the EU countries the “collateral casualties”. But this is the voice of the French people, and I respect it. It is time to get up, repair the damages and still working for the European Union, the inevitable path, the new Roman Empire.

Posted by: VinoTinto [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 31, 2005 02:51 PM

the new Roman Empire.

?!!?

Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges.

And yet, not a time of war.

Posted by: johnnymozart [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 31, 2005 05:38 PM

I've heard the 478 page EU constitution is really a masterpiece - with an entire article devoted to some unknown ethnic minority's right to the "husbandry of reindeer." Now that is an example of inspiration for the rest of the world.

Anyone who's read anything about Roman history knows that it was certainly not a model of government to aspire to (either pre or post-Republic). Maybe a model for how to assimilate other cultures and make yours more interesting, but that's about it.

Posted by: jackhammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 1, 2005 11:09 AM

I said the new Roman Empire, not “the old Roman Empire coming back”. I was not talking about putting again gladiators fighting on the sand.

You, me, all the western civilization is just an evolution of the Greco-Roman culture, if you have not noticed it. And basically, the European Union is the realization of the old idea of Roman Empire.

And now, due the economic mistakes of Chirac, all the process will be retarded several years, since it was supposed that France is one of the most Europeist counties. Everybody knows that the referendum in the Netherlands that is taking place today will be a victory for the “NO”. But the French negative was a big surprise.

Posted by: VinoTinto [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 1, 2005 01:52 PM

Funny thing about "new" empires; they tend to be a lot like the "old" empires.

Posted by: johnnymozart [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2005 08:40 AM

Sure johnny, look the USA.

Posted by: VinoTinto [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2005 01:23 PM

I wonder how soon you'll be putting 666 on your forehead. Remember the Anti-Christ arises out of the REVIVED Roman Empire. He's alive and well and waiting to take his position. Which European politician could it be? I tend to say Chirac, but he's too old. Time for him to retire.

Posted by: Bonniea [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2005 11:16 PM

Lol. Uh huh, whatever, Generalissimo. Don't get your panties in a bunch. I would remind you that YOU were the one who compared your own continent to the Roman Empire, not me. (rolls eyes)

Posted by: johnnymozart [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 3, 2005 08:21 AM

Bonniea, you should read a little bit more about the Roman Empire, and a little bit less about Nostradamus. And here the Voodoo is not so popular as there is. :D

Don’t worry, johnnywayne, I know what I am talking about, unlike you.

Posted by: VinoTinto [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 3, 2005 03:17 PM

Actually Vino, it's from the Bible. I don't read Nostradamus. And I was being silly, but there is a lot of truth in what I said. I take it you're a foreigner by the way you word your english. Italiano?

Posted by: Bonniea [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 3, 2005 06:19 PM

..you know o`Joc is really smarting over this one..could not have happen to a better guy...old Europe is fading away..now is the time for the new Europe to rise...freedom...so sweet it is...............

Posted by: Rob_NC [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 3, 2005 09:40 PM

Sorry Bonniea, but actually I do not read the Bible. :D I am improving here my english, with all these Republican teachers. I am Español.

Came on Rob, there does not exist a new Europe and an old Europe, it doesnt matter if one of your bureocrats has invented such names. The whole Europe is old, a culture 10 times older than your country.

Posted by: VinoTinto [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 4, 2005 02:23 PM

///Don’t worry, johnnywayne, I know what I am talking about, unlike you.///

LOL. Of course you do, Generalissimo, that's why you have to resort to unprovoked ad hominems and insults instead of actual content. How.....European of you.

But either way, I guess your little Marxist delusions of empire will have to wait a little longer.

I think we 'philistines' will manage just fine without you.

Posted by: johnnymozart [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 6, 2005 01:07 PM

I do not understand you johnnywayne,

¿insults? ¿have I insulted to somebody?

Oh, you represents be the classic Republican moral, I forgot it. You invent the insults and straight forward you attack.

I have not called you Hitler, yet.

Posted by: VinoTinto [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 7, 2005 12:16 PM

Apparently in Spain, telling someone they don't know what they're talking about is not considered an insult. What a progressive culture you must have. Whatever, Vino. If you ever manage to get around that pesky "voting" thing and get your empire, then be sure and say hi to the Emperor for me. Feel free to have the last word. Sieg heil!

Senatus Populusque Europenus!!

SPQE!!

Posted by: johnnymozart [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 7, 2005 01:11 PM

No, in Spain to tell so somebody that he doesn’t know what is talking about is not an insult. We have different moral rules, as all we know.

Don’t worry, you in person, or maybe your sons will salute our emperor. No doubt.

My last words? Mmmm, sure: I bet you are a senior member of the NRA

Posted by: VinoTinto [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 9, 2005 12:35 PM

Listen up Tonto, the only salute any American (besides John Kerry) would give a "European Emperor" is the middle finger.

Posted by: jackhammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 14, 2005 10:32 AM

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