Here's an address to an unofficial copy of the actual agreement memo:
http://www.princeton.edu/~petehill/agreement.shtml

SHAME! That was my first reaction to this debacle. The judges that were totally unacceptable this time last week have become sacrificial lambs for the Dems and with that sacrifice they say they won't filibuster any more judges unless there are "extraordinary circumstances".

I wonder who will make THAT distinction. Senator Reid? Kennedy? Durbin? Come on...what they are up to is so transparent it's sickening. They will wait for this Administration to appoint a conservative to replace for O'Conner and regardless of who that is they will label them part of the "extraordinary circumstances" and we're back to square one. Senator Graham, the Republican leader of this little insurrection, says he will definately pull the "nuclear" trigger if the Dems drop the EC tag on a nominee where he doesn't think it's appropriate. Uh huh...like you did this time Senator?

This kind of cliff hanger has happened a couple other times and each time there was a compromise at the last minute. I don't know the circumstances for the other instances but I do know the circumstances here. We have 14 Senators who are willing to sort of set aside 214 years of Senate tradition so we can all just get along.

Sickening. Fire the lot of them. I Support the United States Constitution. Sure wish the US Senate did as well.

I don't know...

The left is P.O.'d, the right is P.O.'d...

My Grandmother told me a long time ago that the hallmark of a good deal is when both parties are unhappy.

Anyway, this wasn't the real battle. That'll come when it's time to nomimate a new Supreme.
And it'll give Bush the breathing room he wants, to nominate a moderate. A constructionist, but a moderate, which is what will best serve the country in the long term anyway.

"And it'll give Bush the breathing room he wants, to nominate a moderate. A constructionist, but a moderate, which is what will best serve the country in the long term anyway."
-----A Vet

Protecting Abortion, Affirmative Action are ya?

We need a conservative on the bench who can kill at least Affirmative Action if not abortion but hopefully both. Another Moderate will just be another huge mistake for the GOP. But if they want to continue to nurture Racism and Murder in our Law....grumble.

It is long since overdue to kill affirmative action. It was never meant or designed to be a permanent leech on our United States Freedom.

"...Protecting Abortion, Affirmative Action are ya? ..."


Would you mind telling me how you derived THAT from my statement?

the republicans are totally blowing their opportunity to get anything done here. The WSJ editorial page made a good point this morning stating that any moderate Dems won't bother defecting or compromising when the republicans can't even agree with themselves. None of Bush's proposed plans have moved forward. The Senate has completely ignored the Prez's threat to veto its extravagant highway bill, and Central American free trade agreement isn't going to move forward. You're telling me it takes a Democrat (Clinton) to pass a free trade agreement? What do the republicans stand for, anyway? I thought it was less intrusive govt., free trade, and lower taxes? In reality, just like the Dems, the only constituents are those that pull the purse strings (for the republicans: banking lobby, protectionists, and Fannie Mae). Jerks!

Jack -

I think you're taking this more seriously than is warranted.

Would I have liked to see the so called "nuke option" used? Sure.

The Dems were abusing the system, and the details of the deal make it clear that it wasn't about principle, it was about being obstructionist just to frustrate Bush.

Having said that, I wouldn't suggest getting too worked up about this. It's just politics.

"It's just politics."

Can anybody say, "obstructionism?"

Yes Harv, I can say "Obstructionism". In fact, I DID say it. (OK, I said "obstructionIST", but I think I should still get credit.

Anyway, it IS just politics. That's what politics often is; one guy being a PITA to the other guy.

sheesh.... now we've got Thune defecting on the Bolton vote in protest that some military bases are being moved south. Three people live in South Dakota, and how do you expect to recruit soldiers that will be stationed there? People don't want to freeze their balls off during a South Dakota blizzard. That little backstabber had the entire republican party pulling for him when he ran against Daschle. I'm telling you, the Republicans are imploding. It's almost like lame-duck season has already started for the Bush admin.

Actually Rehnquist is stepping down due to his cancer. So, we don't have to wait for OÇonnor to retire. And I agree with Jeff about Affirmative Action. It has not helped African Americans, but rather made them a crutch of the system. That is not fair to them as it makes them feel or look inferior. We are all created equal and it's not right to claim one particular race needs a hand out, while the other one doesn't. I hope I said that right. I don't think Sec. Rice or Puff Daddy would want to be put in the Affirmative Action category. African Americans need to realize the value they contribute to society rather than be taught with Affirmative Action that they need a handout to get by.

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