I believe he really believes that. He is as brainwashed as his Illiterate subjects are. The House of Saud achieved control of the peninsula in conjunction with Wahhabism. The Saud's swung the swords, and the Wahhabies reformed the conquered minds.

He is Anti-American down to his bones, and his more reasonable wealthy kin are keeping him as a mere regent to the throne, just long enough for them to pocket the oil wealth, and hop on a private jet to America, as the Fundamentalist Mullahs Soldiers are dragging Abdullah through the streets of Riyadh.

His security forces are more loyal to religion than royalty. And they will refuse to be as ruthless to his enemies as will be required for his survival.

Saudi Arabia is all but over. The religion will reclaim the land and then it will have to be cleansed with Nuclear fire to save the rest of the world from the evil that will spew from it.

It's not the religion that's the problem, Dog.

It's a SECT of the parent religion that's the problem.

Believe me...
The old and new testaments both have plenty of horrible stuff in them. The difference between US and THEM, as well as the difference between mainstream Moslems and Wahhabists, is that WE recognize that we are living in the 21st century AD, not BC.
WE have left behind the bad parts of our religious beliefs, just as modern Moslems have left the bad parts of their's behind.

The PROBLEM is that there is a very significant minority of Moslems that interprets their religion in a way that is incompatible with modern civilization.

Eric: Bone up on Sunni Wahhabism, sometime. Note that in many places in the world, the Sunni sect is not a minority at all.

Not all Sunni are Wahhabi are they?

Wahhabi Info

First of all Sunni Muslims are the largest sect in Islam by far although Wahibis are only a very small proportion of Sunnis. The radical Wahibis are only a part of the problem. The bigger problem is the silent majority of Muslims who do not have the courage or the conviction to stand up to the radicals.

In every religion and ehtnicity there will always be radicals. In most socities violent radicals are closely monitored and, when appropriate, put in jail. In the Muslim world (55 nations), radicals are not just tolerated, they are often encouraged, supported and glorified.

The only way we are going to win this things it to put enough pressure on our "moderate Muslim friends" so that they put the screws to the radicals.

First of all Sunni Muslims are the largest sect in Islam by far although Wahibis are only a very small proportion of Sunnis. The radical Wahibis are only a part of the problem. The bigger problem is the silent majority of Muslims who do not have the courage or the conviction to stand up to the radicals.

In every religion and ehtnicity there will always be radicals. In most socities violent radicals are closely monitored and, when appropriate, put in jail. In the Muslim world (55 nations), radicals are not just tolerated, they are often encouraged, supported and glorified.

The only way we are going to win this things it to put enough pressure on our "moderate Muslim friends" so that they put the screws to the radicals.

Abdullah knows that he's lying and committing a blood libel. His words are no more than what one gets from many Muslims -- lies and the finger of blame pointed at anybody else but themselves. Personal responsibility is not a social value.

Wahhabi History

Redneck, the situation in KSA is a little different from most tyrannical monarchies. There is a whole bunch of princes that while they have no shot at the crown are dependent on the monarch staying in power. So basicly there is an Mech Division of princes that know they will die if the king falls. They have all the really good weapons. If the Whabbi's let the crowds get out of control, the crowds will be gunned down. This is not like the Soviet union, Iran under the shah, or the phillipines were the army wouldn't turn it's weapons loose on the mob. And if it gets to that point, the royal family won't NEED the Imans anymore, which means they will be huge stacks of heads in chop chop square.
Kieth, killing them ALL is always a soultion. Granted it's not that good a solution, but sometimes you have to go with what works and forget about elegance. All the religous fanatics go to service on Friday. If the US Air Forxe had orders to, It could put a JDAM into most, if not all the Mosques in SA at about the same time. Or close enough to really break the back of the Whabbis.

Everyone says "but it's only the extreme muslims." Quick, name 5 muslims that aren't extreme. See the point?

Nuke Mecca. Enough messing around already. Let's get it over with. Nuke Medina just to let them know we're serious.

I think you'll find there is no such thing as a moderate muslim. Most muslims according to a poll I read after 9/11 harbour pride, respect and a kinship with the values of Osama Bin Laden. It was a huge percentage.

Why do you think 'moderates' do not act like moderates and condemn the radicals? Because in their heart of hears, they are pleased that the radicals exist and condone what they are doing.

Why do you think so few muslims protested about the beheadings, and yet shat bricks at Abu Ghraib?

Because they agree with the beheadings.

Show me a true moderate muslim, and I'll show you a man who really wants to be a Christian. A true muslim will always hate the west.

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