Thanks Gipper! Funny no one seems to have mentioned how your policies were directly repsonsible for the rise of Osama Bin Laden and have left of with charming warlords such as Hekmatyr...not to mention how your cowardly administration failed to followup upon the Lebanese bombings and let the Iranians and Mugniyah get away with it. Hell, Mugniyah is STILL on the FBI's most wanted list.
I guess when you don't know your own name and have to wear a diaper, you forget such monumental policy failures as Reagan's....

Thanks Gipper! Funny no one seems to have mentioned how your policies were directly repsonsible for the rise of Osama Bin Laden and have left us with charming warlords such as Hekmatyr...not to mention how your cowardly administration failed to followup upon the Lebanese bombings and let the Iranians and Mugniyah get away with it. Hell, Mugniyah is STILL on the FBI's most wanted list.
I guess when you don't know your own name and have to wear a diaper, you forget such monumental policy failures as Reagan's....

crazy: Blaming Reagan for OBL is like blaming McDonald's for overeating. Any excuse will do, but that one's handy, even if it ultimately makes no sense.

But it's particularly sleazy to poke fun at his Alzheimer's. I doubt you would do that if you ever had to care for a loved one who didn't recognize your face and cowered in fear every time you walked in.

And even Andrew Sullivan is calling you "depraved". That speaks volumes.

Anyone who willfully ignored the beginning of the AIDS epidemic and has the blood of thousands on his hands deserves no sympathy. Reagan was such an idealist coward that he never even spoke publically about AIDS until 1987 (!) and 41,000+ deaths. Death does not grant sainthood and erase one's actions.
As per Osama in Laden, who do you think authorized National Security Decision Directive 166? You can't say that this had nothing to do with the direct influx of Wahhabism into Afgahistan via the ISI. Like it or not, Reagan was the one who initally got us into bed with the devil....

Ronald Reagan supported Marcos, Duarte, Rios Mont and Duvalier and the apartheid regime in South Africa. Ronald Reagan supported Saddam Hussein and helped Hussein use chemical weapons against Iran. Ronald Reagan sent bacterial agents sent to Iraq. Ronald Reagan armed, funded and trained Osama bin Laden to fight the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.

Ronald Regan ended the Fairness Doctrine in media and left us the Unfairness Regime where the media is now a harmful joke. We are fed a diet of lies from General Electric, Ronald Reagan’s old boss. Ronald Reagan’s deregulation gave us the Savings and Loan scandal and cost us hundreds of billions of dollars. Ronald Reagan gutted the social programs your readers do, or may, need. Ronald Reagan spoke the racist lie about the "welfare-Cadillac queen." Ronald Reagan had 138 officials of his administration convicted, indicted or investigated for misconduct and/or criminal activities.

"Are you better off now than you were four years ago?" can be re-asked as “Are you better off now than you were before Ronald Reagan?” The answer is, “Well yes I was for bit during Clinton, but not anymore.”

No matter what points you may have, it is disrespectful to trash the man so soon after his death. If you're that angry, why not wait until next week at least?

Better to seem like an ass than to open your mouth and prove it.

He did NOT win the Cold War.

He was a racist.

He did nothing for the poor.

He admitted to crimes in the Iran/Contra fiasco.

I, for one, will not miss him.

You know you're on the right side when pathetic ass clowns like crazy populate the opposition.

Anyone who celebrates death separates themselves from civilzation. It should be this society's responsiblity to isolate you from the population, and deny you the benefits of association as far as possible. We do otherwise to our own detriment.

God have mercy on your soul.

Reagan was a racist, homophobic, simpleton who presided over one of the most corrupt administrations in history. He pretended to be religious, yet ignored the plight of the poor and dying, especially in regards to his AIDS policies. God have mercy on YOUR soul for ignoring the facts.

It was thanks to Reagan's strong opposition to Communism and terrorism, that you aren't speaking Russian or Arabic right now. You can at least give him your respect for defending your freedom to disagree with him. You would never have such freedom under Communism or Sharia law.

On the other hand, if you get no such freedom from Michele and Alan regarding your asshat behavior on this site, you get no pity from me.

somewhere, john hinckley believes that jodie foster truly loves him now. guess he can be let out of jail, huh?

OL: It grates, doesn't it? A simplteon defeated the evil empire whom the sophisticates fawned over. Now, another simpleton got rid of another evil man who had done us no harm except mass murdering millions of his countrymen.

Funny how these simpletons seem to leave thousands of innocent bodies in their wake.... and I think the probablilty that I'd be speaking Russian or Arabic right now if it weren't for Reagan is approximately 0.05%. Puuhhllleaaase, stop the progaganda and learn some history!

History doesn't mean jack shit, when the clearly stated objectives of both Karl Marx and radical Islam are world domination. If you want to bury your head in the sand, fine. But I'll see you in Hell before I'll let you demand the same of me.

>when the clearly stated objectives of both Karl Marx and radical Islam are world domination.

Apparently, this fact escaped Reagan....as he traded Communists for Wahhabists. But of course you knew that!

Good bye to the old clown. I will for sure not miss him either. He damaged America and we still suffer from his legacy.

The old fool who fooled too many of us should rest in peace.

Truth

Wow, that didn't take long. Get help folks. That hatred is bad for you.

Those who know me, will have spotted the change.
For once here I am, no camouflage.
Why?
Because it would be churlish to oppose some of those who have posted above, behind some nickname. When you stand up for the good, sometimes you have to stand in the open, this is one of those times.

A great man has left us. He made mistakes. He was not subject to the 20/20 vision of the mangy curs that already snap around his memory.

However, he was a MAN of conviction, values and vision. The world he left after his tenure of office ,was a better one than when he took the oath.

He was a friend to the Friends of America around the world. His parting leaves a small hole in the world of most right thinking people.

Crazy, I will guarantee, that when you die, you will not be fondly remembered by 1000th of the people who grieve the parting of this man.

Ollie. Get an NIC that you can live up to.

Truth. As above, your use of that particular handle is particurly annoying. Sometimes, you do publish an awkward truth (Congratulations), more often you consume a large meal of hot curry, wash it down with ten pints of fizzy lager, and the rest of us are left waiting and bemused as to which end will speak first. Even more difficult is the effort of trying to work out which end makes more sense!!

All I get from these posts is how bitter, ruthless, and hateful the American Left is.

..again they show their intelligence.Simply no class and no respect,so I say to you God LOVES YOU he teaches that I should too,but I dont have to like it .

Rob,

Greetings and Salutations to my friend. I appreciate the sentiment behind your words, and I share them, so I too will join you in the light of day, leaving the mask behind, although I generally disdain personal disclosure on this site. As with you, those who know me or perhaps my words will recognize the change. Bravo to you, sir!

Ronald Reagan was a good man. A man who earned the respect of his colleagues, and even his enemies. A man who loved his family. A man who believed in America when many of us had lost hope. It surprises not at all to see those who have no conception of who he was or what constitutes a great man trying to denigrate the memory of a great man under the auspices of honorable names like "Ollie North" or "Patriot"; or concepts such as "Truth", neither the honor of the former or the reality of the latter they could earn for themselves. At least "crazy" lives up to his name. After all, what do we really expect from people who refer to themselves as "crazy" or "Double Standard"?

Rather than feed these loserass sub-bridge dwellers, I am instead going to share my favorite Reagan memory. I encourage others who come to this thread, rather than feed the trolls, to sahre their favorite Reagan quote, movie, or story. It is that that will honor his memory, not debating, if it can be called that, the anklebiters. RR was a great man, but he was still a man, and we all recognize that he had many failings as a man, but nevertheless, he will be remembered as someone who changd the world for the better.

My favorite Reagan story is kind of silly, and its one four, but its still my favorite: He was talking about when he was first getting used to being in the White House, and the security that goes with that. He said that he had always loved watching the wildlife as a boy, and one day he saw a squirrel on the grounds and was watching it, and started to go out the door to get closer.....

....and immediately alll the alarms started going off, and a hundred secret service agents descended on him. His laugh at his own mistake was infectious. Especially his description of the expression of his wife.

Mikhail Gorbachev, when describing RR at the summit at Reykjavik, noted that after some debate, Ronald Reagan stood up from the table, said "You're not taking this seriously." and walked away, leaving the Soviet delegation dumbfounded. He had never been more impressed than that day.

and lastly, message to his wife at their 50th, as his mind started to decline:

"To the love of my life. 50 years is not nearly enough. I love you. Your happy, happy husband,

Ron"

Godspeed, sir. You leave behind a grieving nation and world, one that you made a better place.

The firing of the air traffic controllers, winnable nuclear war, recallable nuclear missiles, trees that cause pollution, Elliott Abrams lying to Congress, ketchup as a vegetable, colluding with Guatemalan thugs, pardons for F.B.I. lawbreakers, voodoo economics, budget deficits, toasts to Ferdinand Marcos, public housing cutbacks, redbaiting the nuclear freeze movement, James Watt.


Getting cozy with Argentine fascist generals, tax credits for segregated schools, disinformation campaigns, "homeless by choice," Manuel Noriega, falling wages, the HUD scandal, air raids on Libya, "constructive engagement" with apartheid South Africa, United States Information Agency blacklists of liberal speakers, attacks on OSHA and workplace safety, the invasion of Grenada, assassination manuals, Nancy's astrologer.


Drug tests, lie detector tests, Fawn Hall, female appointees (8 percent), mining harbors, the S&L scandal, 239 dead U.S. troops in Beirut, Al Haig "in control," silence on AIDS, food-stamp reductions, Debategate, White House shredding, Jonas Savimbi, tax cuts for the rich, "mistakes were made."


Michael Deaver's conviction for influence peddling, Lyn Nofziger's conviction for influence peddling, Caspar Weinberger's five-count indictment, Ed Meese ("You don't have many suspects who are innocent of a crime"), Donald Regan (women don't "understand throw-weights"), education cuts, massacres in El Salvador.


"The bombing begins in five minutes," $640 Pentagon toilet seats, African-American judicial appointees (1.9 percent), Reader's Digest, C.I.A.-sponsored car-bombing in Lebanon (more than eighty civilians killed), 200 officials accused of wrongdoing, William Casey, Iran/contra. "Facts are stupid things," three-by-five cards, the MX missile, Bitburg, S.D.I., Robert Bork, naps, Teflon.

Patriot, take 2 Prozac capsules every day, for 3 weeks. Hopefully the delusions will go away. Sorry, I can't do anything for your low I.Q.

The response to Patriot sums it up. Ignore the facts, fellate a false nostalgic image in an orgy of BS, then call everyone else crazy

Reagan was a corrupt buffoon whose image has been inflated and manipulated like few others....he was a compulsive liar who cowardly could never admit wrong, despite it being proven in a court. He approved the invasion of Lebanon, ran like a scared dog when our troops were bombed, then tried to blame the Democrats for the whole thing. His defense about selling arms to Iran and supporting death squads in Nicaragua was that he didn't quite understand that they were impeachable crimes. Hardly a Presidential attitude or spine.

Oh, spare us, Crazy. The bravery of Democratic heroes like Carter and Clinton is a known commodity. Nonexistent. Stop trashing their better by calling him cowardly.

Crazy, you need something stronger than Prozac. Those accusations are too Schizophrenic to respond to seriously. A lobotomy may be in order.

Dr. Radar

Wow,

It's so good to know that the entire world was not blind and oblivious to the bigoted administration that Mr. Reagan put in place. An administration that has birthed our present leader G.W., by way of his powerfully corrupt father Big Daddy G. Previously head of CIA, overseeing the hand to hand demolition of the inner city. Crack, AIDS, and Poverty flourished according to plan upon Mr. Reagan's arrival and introduction of the "Trickle Down" Theory! This country was on a path toward unity and healing before Ronald's leadership. Mr. Carter had implemented a great mind-set toward a more perfiect union, and ever since, with the exception of those 6 1/2 great years of the Clinton administration, this darned country has gone to hell and back.
It's possible that I'm just an angry black man that grew up in a poverished inner-city dwelling in Fresno, California that's looking for an excuse for the stagnacity of my wealthy future, but I was pretty glad to hear about Ronald's death. I feel that it starts the well overdue healing process that he single handedly thwarted. I'm sorry for his Alz, but I hope he gets to taste the nastiest worms in the ground, as well as look all the young black men, crack babies and crack mamma's that have preceeded him to the dirt as a result of his economic development plan in their pain ridden faces for the remainder of his eternal damnation.

Booty:
With all due respect...

Get yourself a good strong cuppa coffee, then go read Bill Cosby's address to the NAACP on the recent occasion of the 50th anniversary of the Brown vs. The Board of Education ruling.

This will do for a start:
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=11810453&BRD=1077&PAG=461&dept_id=237827&rfi=6

And then read Walter Williams, also a well known and admired black man:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=4054

And also Clarence Paige, another widely syndicated black columnist:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.page27may27,0,2055950.story?coll=bal-oped-headlines

///This country was on a path toward unity and healing before Ronald’s leadership.///

With a 14% inflation rate. Sure it was.

TO THE MEMORIES OF RONALD REAGAN
AS AN ACTOR TO GOVENOR TO PRESIDENT
TO SAY GOOD-BYE TO HIM AND I AM SORRY TO HEAR OF HIS DEATH.WE SEND OUR LOVE TO THE REAGAN FAMILY AND TO KEEP THE FAITH . HE IS IN A BETTRT PLACE. HE WENT HOME TO HEAVEN.

PonderingPundit:

No respect necessary! Because there's absolutely none given if you think Mr. Huxtable can in any way speak for middle to lower class black families. There's a distinctable difference between Mr. Cosby and myself. Mr. Cosby is what is known as a "negro". You people of mainstream consciousness love negro's to death. Negro's seem to be tolerable, and very understanding. Negro's accept being lovable and friendly. They feel the more white people like them, the better they are doing in society. Negro's believe that Black people that were caught up in the "Crack Ages", brought it upon themselves, and addicted themselves to the drugs and violence that terrorized the inner city. Negro's can stand on a stage almost anywhere in the world and speak in a condescending tone to other Black people without the 6 degrees of separation that the Negro has seemingly amassed. However, sir, I am a "Nigga'!" And Nigga's do not forget about all of the horrible history toward his fellow kind. Nigga's go to sleep angry about the injustice. Nigga's live just to remind you that you cannot enslave, degrade, torture, mutilate, rape, pillage, and kill Black people for hundreds of years and then expect black people to adapt socially to a world that glorifys the actions of a president who on many occassions went out of his way to build upon the legacy that other President's and legistalors such as George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and John Adams had diagramed. For they were the forefathers that wrote in their constitution that "ALL" Blacks, were 3/5 of a human being. Therefore, not able to serve any other purpose than to be enslaved and have no human rights. Ronald Reagan went out of his way to fund white racist organizations by allowing them to be tax exempt when Congress made it clear that this was improper governing. This was a public fight that Ronald fought hard for, but loss... thankfully. I'm not mad a Ronald for being a freakin' bigot, I'm just mad that everyone else wants to praise him for being one. For that I'm appauled, but even more so for someone thinking that Mr. Cosby can ever relate to the mental oppression that real Nigga's feel everyday someone has a comment about the slow progression of a people that were prohibited by law to read, write, vote, or be human.

P.S. And please, do not think that just because Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation that he adored Black People. That day, by his own admission, was the worst day in his life as per his quote "I painstakingly pondered and prayed for another way to achieve our Union purpose, and found no other recouse than to free the slaves. There just doesn't seem to be any other way.

And as for, the 14% inflation that Jimmy Carter incurred during his tenure, it weighs in very minutely to the "all time high" 18% unemployment rate that Ronald Reagan brought with his administration. Inflation can't take place if there are no jobs for people to involve themselves within that inflation. Jimmy Carter's employment rate has been compared to that of the Clinton administration. And I'm sure everyone on or near this board prospered during the Clinton years.
Sorry for the rambling, but ignorance incites me.

Please cite your source, BootyCrack, for all quotes, (especially the Lincoln one) and perhaps a link for "18% unemployment" during Reagan's tenure.

And speaking of incitement by ignorance, I would remind you also that you are not the only minority on this board, so can the assumptions and race-baiting.

For anyone interested in actual facts rather than hyperbole, you can find this at the site for the GAO, or any other number of econ sites on the web. Go look for yourself.

Federal Receipts
[current dollars--billions]
Year Reagan Year Clinton
1981 599.3 1993 1,154.4
1982 617.8 1994 1,258.6
1983 600.6 1995 1,351.8
1984 666.5 1996 1,453.1
1985 734.1 1997 1,579.3
1986 769.2 1998 1,721.8
1987 854.4 1999 1,827.5
1988 909.3 2000 2,025.2
Average 718.9 Average 1,546.46
Federal Receipts
[as of GDP]

Year Reagan Year Clinton

1981 19.6 1993 17.6

1982 19.1 1994 18.1

1983 17.5 1995 18.5

1984 17.4 1996 18.9

1985 17.7 1997 19.3

1986 17.5 1998 19.9

1987 18.4 1999 20.0

1988 18.1 2000 20.8

Average 18.16 Average 19.14





Federal Outlays

[current dollars--billions]

Year Reagan Year Clinton

1981 678.2 1993 1,409.5

1982 745.8 1994 1,461.9

1983 808.4 1995 1,515.8

1984 851.9 1996 1,560.6

1985 946.4 1997 1,601.3

1986 990.5 1998 1,652.6

1987 1,004.1 1999 1,701.9

1988 1,064.5 2000 1,788.8

Average 886.23 Average 1,586.55

Federal Outlays

[as of GDP]
Year Reagan Year Clinton
1981 22.2 1993 21.5
1982 23.1 1994 21.1
1983 23.5 1995 20.7
1984 22.2 1996 20.3
1985 22.9 1997 19.6
1986 22.5 1998 19.1
1987 21.6 1999 18.7
1988 21.2 2000 18.4
Average 22.40 Average 19.93


Federal Deficits
[billions of dollars]
Year Reagan Year Clinton
1981 -53.7 1993 -274.1
1982 -132.6 1994 -212.3
1983 -173.9 1995 -192.0
1984 -168.1 1996 -136.8
1985 -177.1 1997 -53.3
1986 -192.1 1998 +43.8
1987 -147.9 1999 +119.2
1988 -137.4 2000 +218.6
Average -147.85 Average -60.86
Federal Deficits
[as of GDP]

Year Reagan Year Clinton

1981 -2.6 1993 -3.9

1982 -4.0 1994 -2.9

1983 -6.0 1995 -2.2

1984 -4.8 1996 -1.4

1985 -5.1 1997 -.3

1986 -5.0 1998 .8

1987 -3.2 1999 1.4

1988 -3.1 2000 2.4

Average -4.23 Average -1.1





Federal Deficits

[current dollars]

Year Reagan Year Clinton

1981 -79.0 1993 -255.1

1982 -128.0 1994 -203.3

1983 -207.8 1995 -164.0

1984 -185.4 1996 -107.5

1985 -212.3 1997 -22.0

1986 -221.2 1998 69.2

1987 -149.8 1999 125.5

1988 -155.2 2000 236.4

Average -167.34 Average -34.6

Interest on Public Debt

[1996 dollars--billions]

Year Reagan Year Clinton

1981 112.0 1993 211.6

1982 129.4 1994 211.5

1983 130.9 1995 236.8

1984 156.2 1996 241.1

1985 175.2 1997 239.3

1986 180.8 1998 233.2

1987 179.3 1999 219.4

1988 190.1 2000 208.6

Average 156.86 Average 225.19







Median Family Income

[in 2000 dollars]

Year Reagan Year Clinton

1981 41,397 1993 43,472

1982 40,273 1994 44,638

1983 40,715 1995 45,599

1984 41,944 1996 46,240

1985 42,564 1997 47,687

1986 44,425 1998 49,317

1987 45,166 1999 50,594

1988 45,297 2000 50,890

Average 42,723 Average 47,305

Savings

[as of GDP]
Year Reagan Year Clinton
1981 20.7 1993 15.6
1982 19.0 1994 16.3
1983 17.0 1995 16.9
1984 19.4 1996 17.2
1985 18.2 1997 18.0
1986 16.5 1998 18.8
1987 17.0 1999 18.4
1988 18.3 2000 18.1
Average 18.26 Average 17.41


Unemployment
[civilian]
Year Reagan Year Clinton
1981 7.6 1993 6.9
1982 9.7 1994 6.1
1983 9.6 1995 5.6
1984 7.5 1996 5.4
1985 7.2 1997 4.9
1986 7.0 1998 4.5
1987 6.2 1999 4.2
1988 5.5 2000 4.0


Average 7.54 Average 5.20
Poverty
[percent below poverty level]
Year Reagan Year Clinton
1981 14.0 1993 15.1
1982 15.0 1994 14.5
1983 15.2 1995 13.8
1984 14.4 1996 13.7
1985 14.0 1997 13.3
1986 13.6 1998 12.7
1987 13.4 1999 11.8
1988 13.0 2000 11.3
Average 14.01 Average 13.28


Federal Debt
[Gross Federal]
Year Reagan Year Clinton
1981 994.8 1993 4,351.4
1982 1,137.3 1994 4,643.7
1983 1,371.7 1995 4,921.0
1984 1,564.7 1996 5,181.9
1985 1,817.5 1997 5,369.7
1986 2,120.6 1998 5,478.7
1987 2,346.1 1999 5,606.1
1988 2,601.3 2000 5,629.0
Average 1744.25 Average 5147.56
Gross Debt
[as % of gdp]
Year Reagan Year Clinton
1981 32.5 1993 66.3
1982 35.2 1994 66.9
1983 39.9 1995 67.2
1984 40.8 1996 67.3
1985 43.9 1997 65.6
1986 48.2 1998 63.2 0
1987 50.57 1999 61.4
1988 51.9 2000 57.8
Average 42.86 Average 64.46


Producer Price Index
[percent change] [Dec.-Dec.]
Year Reagan Year Clinton
1981 7.1 1993 .2
1982 3.6 1994 1.7
1983 .6 1995 2.3
1984 1.7 1996 2.8
1985 1.8 1997 -1.2
1986 -2.3 1998 0
1987 2.2 1999 2.9
1988 4.0 2000 3.6
Average 2.59 Average 1.73
Consumer Price Index
[CPI-U] [percent change] [Dec.-Dec.]
Year Reagan Year Clinton
1981 8.9 1993 2.7
1982 3.8 1994 2.7
1983 3.8 1995 2.5
1984 3.9 1996 3.3
1985 3.8 1997 1.7
1986 1.1 1998 1.6
1987 4.4 1999 2.7
1988 4.4 2000 3.4
Average 4.26 Average 2.58


Manufacturing
[1992=100]
Year Reagan Year Clinton
1981 113.9 1993 105.1
1982 80.5 1994 113.8
1983 88.2 1995 116.28
1984 98.7 1996 119.7
1985 98.4 1997 125.5
1986 91.2 1998 127.7
1987 97.8 1999 129.4
1988 106.2 2000 131.9
Average 96.86 Average 121.16
Corporate Profits
[billion's of dollars]
Year Reagan Year Clinton
1981 216.3 1993 506.4
1982 188.0 1994 561.0
1983 223.9 1995 650.2
1984 262.0 1996 729.4
1985 255.2 1997 800.8
1986 250.5 1998 739.4
1987 298.4 1999 773.4
1988 359.8 2000 833.0
Average 256.76 Average 699.05


Dow Jones Indusital Average
Year Reagan Year Clinton
1981 932.92 1993 3522.06
1982 884.36 1994 3793.77
1983 1,190.34 1995 4493.76
1984 1,178.48 1996 5742.89
1985 1,328.23 1997 7441.15
1986 1,792.76 1998 8625.52
1987 2,275.99 1999 10464.88
1988 2,060.82 2000 10734.90
Average 1,455.49 Average 6852.37
New York Stock Exchange
Year Reagan Year Clinton
1981 74.02 1993 249.58
1982 68.93 1994 254.12
1983 92.63 1995 291.15
1984 92.46 1996 358.17
1985 108.09 1997 456.54
1986 136.00 1998 550.26
1987 161.70 1999 619.16
1988 149.91 2000 643.66
Average 110.47 Average 427.83


S&P
Year Reagan Year Clinton
1981 128.05 1993 451.41
1982 119.71 1994 460.42
1983 160.41 1995 541.72
1984 160.46 1996 670.50
1985 186.84 1997 873.43
1986 236.34 1998 1,085.50
1987 286.83 1999 1,327.33
1988 265.79 2000 1,427.22
Average 193.05 Average 854.69
NASDAQ
Year Reagan Year Clinton
1981 203.18 1993 715.16
1982 188.97 1994 751.65
1983 285.43 1995 925.19
1984 248.88 1996 1,164.96
1985 290.19 1997 1,469.49
1986 366.96 1998 1,794.91
1987 402.57 1999 2,728.15
1988 374.43 2000 3,783.67
Average 295.08 Average 1,666.65


New Home Mortgage Yields
[Percent per annum]
Year Reagan Year Clinton
1981 14.70 1993 7.20
1982 15.14 1994 7.49
1983 12.57 1995 7.87
1984 12.38 1996 7.80
1985 11.55 1997 7.71
1986 10.17 1998 7.07
1987 9.31 1999 7.04
1988 9.19 2000 7.52
Average 11.88 Average 7.46
Prime Rate
[Percent per annum]
Year Reagan Year Clinton
1981 18.87 1993 6.00
1982 14.86 1994 7.15
1983 10.79 1995 8.83
1984 12.04 1996 8.27
1985 9.93 1997 8.44
1986 8.33 1998 8.35
1987 8.21 1999 8.0
1988 9.32 2000 9.23
Average 11.54 Average 8.04


Finished Energy Goods
[percent change] [year to year]
Year Reagan Year Clinton
1981 19.1 1993 .3
1982 -1.5 1994 -1.3
1983 -4.8 1995 1.4
1984 -4.2 1996 6.5
1985 -3.9 1997 .2
1986 -28.1 1998 -10.0
1987 -1.9 1999 4.9
1988 -3.2 2000 19.4
Average -3.56 Average 3.48
Real GDP
chain-type quantity index]
Year Reagan Year Clinton
1981 2.5 1993 2.7
1982 -2.0 1994 4.0
1983 4.3 1995 2.7
1984 7.3 1996 3.6
1985 3.8 1997 4.4
1986 3.4 1998 4.3
1987 3.4 1999 4.1
1988 4.2 2000 4.1
Average 3.36 Average 3.74


Black Family Income
[in 2000 dollars]
Year Reagan Year Clinton
1981 24,530 1993 25,338
1982 23,370 1994 28,427
1983 24,027 1995 29,160
1984 24,486 1996 28,993
1985 25,761 1997 30,603
1986 26,548 1998 31,027
1987 26,843 1999 32,846
1988 27,199 2000 34,192
Average 25,346 Average 30,073
Black Poverty
[percent below poverty level]
Year Reagan Year Clinton
1981 34.2 1993 33.1
1982 35.6 1994 30.6
1983 35.7 1995 29.3
1984 33.8 1996 28.4
1985 31.3 1997 26.5
1986 31.1 1998 26.1
1987 32.4 1999 23.6
1988 31.3 2000 22.0
Average 33.18 Average 27.45


1981 Median Family Income: From ERP-2001, p.314. Not included in ERP-2002.
1981 Poverty: From ERP-2001, p.314. Not included in ERP-2002.
1981 Black Family Income :From ERP-2001, p.314. Not included in ERP-2002.
1981 Black Poverty: From ERP-2001, p.314. Not included in ERP-2002.

Mr. Mozart,

I'm not sure where you've collected your facts, but trust me when I say "they're wrong!" It is a widely known fact that Ronald Reagan drove unemployment up higher than it had been since 1940, quite often keeping the percentile of unemployment in the double digits. Furthermore, to compare Reagan's "trickle down" to Clinton's "easy pour" theory is ridiculous. There was no comparison, Clinton's unemployment numbers stayed below 5% for more than 6 years. As for my quote of 18%, I apologize, I was speaking of the unemployment increase amongst African American's after Jimmy Carter.

And here are the other footnotes:

1. African Americans fall under Ronald Reagan
http://pblmm.k12.ca.us/projects/discrimination/AfricanAmerican/blackstd.html

2. Single handedly responsible for the “crack ages!”
-- thirdworldtravelercom/CIA/secret_war.html
(place the dot in the correct space, this site doesn't want to list this link for some "unknown" reason.

3. President Lincoln moved slowly on the emancipation of the slaves. In 1861, when John C. Frémont issued an order that all the slaves in Missouri were free, Lincoln ordered Frémont to rescind the order, and when he refused Lincoln fired him.
http://www.ashbrook.org/publicat/oped/owens/04/guelzo.html


I don't expect you to know all of this, it was in the section of "true history" that was never taught in schools. But authors such as Fredrick Douglas, J.A. Rogers, Cornel West, and many others have taught this to their community as long as you've been taught your truth by your respected leaders and writers.

And as for me turning this into a racist rant, well sometimes emotions get the best of people. And Ronald Reagan has been a sore spot on my soul ever since I've witnessed what his "Secret War" did to my community. The Crack Age was almost as devious a plot as Chattel Slavery... The Greatest Sin America has ever committed!

You've got to be kidding me.

What do you mean you don't know where I got my facts? I told you exactly where I got them. Go see for yourself.

It is a widely known fact that Ronald Reagan drove unemployment up higher than it had been since 1940

A "widely known fact" that apparently has no link, or any citation that might contradict historical documentation. Dream on.

As for your links, I'll give you credit for at least posting some, which is better than a lot of people here, but sorry, your "quote" from President Lincoln, was nowhere in the article, which was an editorial, anyway!

I didn't have time to look at them all in detail, but this in particular jumped out at me.

A similar problem arose with the use of martial law to effect emancipation. For this reason Lincoln revoked the emancipation that General John C. Fremont proclaimed in Missouri at the beginning of the war. Lincoln believed that to invoke emancipation for political rather than for military reasons, as Fremont was, unconstitutional.

Additionally, Lincoln believed Fremont’s action would antagonize the loyal slave states, providing them an impetus to join the Confederacy. As he continued in his letter to Orville Browning, "I think to lose Kentucky is nearly to the same as to lose the whole game. Kentucky gone, we cannot hold Missouri, nor, as I think, Maryland. These all against us, and the job on our hands is too large for us."

So you see, more was at stake here than to oversimplify this as "Lincoln was actually racist".

Booty,

Let me tell you that I understand where you're coming from, probably better than you think. Change the problems, change the people blamed, and I've heard it all before. Trust me, this inimical nonsense can only result in bitterness and less prosperity for you. Don't let it. You are clearly angry, and for many things, understandably so. But I think your fury is misplaced, and I think honestly looking at the evidence supports me. This trail is one of tears, so to speak. It ends in ruin, or at least unending bitterness.

Good luck.
jm

HELP!

Do any of you kind, intelligent patriots know military protocol for half staff flags? No 'stealth patriots' need reply, thank you.

Here's the problem:

Providence, RI: City Hall. One flag pole, two flags. Old Glory and the gay pride flag. No I'm not kidding. Providence's mayor is gay and took down the MIA flag flown by his predecessor and replaced it with the gay pride flag at his inauguration. The Mayor's message: 'Screw the vets, I'm gay!'

Both flags are half staff and I could have sworn that it was protocol to remove all other flags from the pole if Old Glory was half-staff. The mayor's office sent me the Federal Flag Code and I can find no guidelines for multiple flags on one staff flying half staff for mourning.

Any insight, anyone? It seems so disrespectful and none of the Marxists in Rhode Island have a clue.

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