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June 03, 2004
Dowdy Sweepings from the Cutting-Room Floor
From an undelivered political speech scheduled for December 12th : In the slogans and propaganda that have been hurled back and forth during these months of war, there has been much discussion of those qualities of American life call Democracy and Freedom. Committees have been found to defend and to befriend democracy, and to fight for freedom. Our President says ... that it is our mission to spread, by force if necessary, various forms of freedom throughout the world.The Author of the speech? No, not Senator Kennedy. It was by Charles Lindburgh, and was due to be delivered to the America First Committee on December 12th, 1941. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. I was one of the snobs who hated the design of the World War II memorial. As a native Washingtonian, I felt sad to see L'Enfant's empty, perfect stretch of mall, elegantly anchored by the Lincoln Memorial and the Washington Monument, broken up.Condescending Arrogance and Invincible Ignorance often go together like that. But it's not often you see such egregious examples so close together. As the ANSWER-esque speech (and by a truly great American Hero) shows, Dowd's 'Stark Moral Clarity' was far less so at the time. There's a reason why the comparisons between Saddam and Hitler, and between 2004 Iraq and 1946 Germany are often made, it's because the parallels are so striking to anyone who's bothered to study the issue. But some will always prefer to keep their ignorance intact. No doubt in 2062 the Maureen Dowds of the era will be talking about the 'Stark Moral Clarity' of the Liberation of Iraq holding no lessons for conflict in a 'grayer time' too. But hopefully without quite so much condescension to the 'adorable little people' currently serving in the Sandbox. Posted By Zoe Brain at June 3, 2004 02:30 AM | TrackBackComments
It is important to recall that prominent Leftists also opposed America's entry into World War II. Dalton Tumbo's famous pacifist novel "Johnny Got His Gun" was published in 1939 and serialized in the communist newspaper "The Daily Worker." Tumbo wrote another novel in 1940, "The Remarkable Andrew," that explicitly opposed American entry into the war and even opposed giving aid to victims of Nazi aggression. Of course, all of this pacifism suddenly disappeared on 22 June 1941, when Nazi Germany invaded the Soviet Union, at which time Trumbo and other Leftists became fanatically pro-war ... Trumbo even encouraged the suppression of his own books and the curtailment of civil liberties during the war, the very opposite of his stance before 22 June 1941. After the Allied victory, Trumbo encourged reprinting of "Johnny Got His Gun" (but not "The Marvelous Andrew") and became interested in civil liberties again.
Posted by: Average Joe at June 3, 2004 09:05 AM Alan,
Posted by: leaddog2 at June 3, 2004 09:41 AM I predict that there will still be a number of people who just simply won't be capable of understanding the issues. Posted by: eric at June 3, 2004 09:46 AM That really interesting Joe, Im going to have to poke around a bit, Id like to learn more about what went on. I remember talking about the time leading up to WW2 in my College history classes, but there was never any king of Anti-war movement mentioned. Only an "uneasyness" about going to war in Europe again. Very interesting.
Posted by: HullBreach at June 3, 2004 09:47 AM I dont think you guys really get what anti-american means, which is sad. Cuz that means you dont know what it means to be American either. God bless your ignorant hearts. Posted by: Fouther at June 3, 2004 12:15 PM
HullBreach : Oh My Stars. And College history classes, not just high school. OK.... I'll give you some links, or you can just Google the phrase <"America First Committee">
Schoolnet.co.uk In a speech in Des Moines, Iowa, Charles A. Lindbergh claimed that the "three most important groups who have been pressing this country toward war are the British, the Jewish and the Roosevelt administration". Soon afterwards Gerald Nye argued "that the Jewish people are a large factor in our movement toward war."Substitute Israel, NeoCons and the Bush administration... The URL also has some links to the Unspeakable Father Coughlin, who makes Michael Moore look saintly. Houghton-Mifflin Companion to American History : Isolationism and also their entry on America First Committee. But in 1940-1941 many still supported the noninterventionist America First Committee. Isolationists failed to block proposals by the Roosevelt administration to aid victims of Axis aggression with methods short of war. Nonetheless, 80 percent of Americans opposed any declaration of war against the Axis states.80 PERCENT. That's probably about the same percentage who would be against a war with Afghanistan had 9/11 not happened. Did you know that the 1940 Conscription Act was only renewed in 1941 by One Vote? Arguably Hitler's greatest mistake was to declare War on the USA a few days after Pearl Harbor. It's entirely possible that despite Roosevelt's pressure to go to war against Germany, that the Congress would only have voted to go to war against Japan - especially if Hitler had immediately repudiated the Japanese. Also look up the German-American Bund : Actual membership figures for the G - A Bund, are not known with any certainty, but reliable estimates place membership at 25,000 dues paying members, including some 8,000 uniformed Storm Troopers. The G - A Bund carried out active propaganda for its causes, published magazines and brochures, organized demonstrations and maintained a number of youth camps run along the lines of the HITLERJUGEND (Hitler Youth). ...A February 1939 rally of the G - A Bund in Madison Square Garden drew a crowd of 20,000 who consistently booed the American president and chanted the Nazi Heil Hitler. The G - A Bund closely cooperated with the "Christian Front" organized by the antisemitic priest, Father Charles COUGHLIN.How big was the America First Committee? From a Charles Lindbergh site : America First Committee, founded in September 1940, was the most powerful isolationist group in America before the United States entered World War II. It had over 800,000 members, who wanted to keep America neutral.Compared to ANSWER's how many? How popular was Father Coughlin? ...some observers claimed that Father Coughlin was the second most important political figure in the United States. It was estimated that Coughlin's radio broadcasts were getting an audience of 30 million people. He was also having to employ twenty-six secretaries to deal with the 400,000 letters a week he was receiving from his listeners.How Moonbat was he? In January 1940 the FBI raided the New York branch of the Christian Front and uncovered a cache of weapons. J. Edgar Hoover claimed that his officers had discovered that members of the organization planned to murder Jews, Communists and "a dozen Congressmen." Although Coughlin was not directly involved in this plot, the publicity it generated severely damaged his reputation.It's all about OIL!!! I say again, Oh My Stars. You really should have been taught about this stuff at High School. Look, I'm Australian. I attended Primary School in England, and was taught the basics about this there. I dropped History in High School in Australia after 8th Grade, and even I know this stuff. I feel like taking your so-called 'history' so-called 'teachers' and throttling them. Maybe I should just do an Op-Ed on it. The America Firsters, not committing mayhem on your pedagogues. Posted by: Alan E Brain at June 3, 2004 01:38 PM leaddog2 : You did read my previous Op-Ed article Names Have Been Changed didn't you? The NRO article you quote is mentioned there, as is the original blog where the info originally appeared. Posted by: Alan E Brain at June 3, 2004 01:56 PM That was an incredibly good post, Alan. Posted by: Moonbat_One at June 3, 2004 04:54 PM Alan, This article in today's SF Chronicle may be of interest:
Posted by: feste at June 4, 2004 03:50 PM It's worse than you think. Three years ago I took a vocational course in which most of my fourteen classmates were recent highschool graduates. One day during a break I remarked that someone's tatoo looked like something out of Edgar Allen Poe. Not one of them knew who I was talking about. One person's memory was jogged (and she was over 30) when I brought up the old Simpsons Halloween special with James Earl Jones reciting the poem about the bird.
Posted by: marymcl at June 4, 2004 08:33 PM Good grief, that's Edgar Allan Poe. Shame on me ! Posted by: marymcl at June 4, 2004 08:35 PM f Posted by: johnnymozart at June 7, 2004 05:04 PM Post a comment
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