I don't know, Steve. Hasn't worked for Al Franken or Janeane Garofalo. :)

Hey Al, you were good enough, you were smart enough, but doggone it, people really didn't like you, after all.

Any publicity, even bad publicity works to increase view/readership. Rising tides raise all boats. If you actually heard KOS on Garofalo's show, you'd know just by his squeeky voice that he's a dweeb with a voice for blogging, much like having a face for radio.

"hatred—of America, especially" does not work, on either the left or right, and there are plenty of right leaning haters as well as on the left. If the left is really "disproportionately powerful," then please explain the conservative hold on all three branches of the US government.

Kos, to his credit, has in his own way attempted to explain if not apologise for his retracted remarks, and he did lose some sponsorship, including John Kerry. Commercialism being what it is, his rise in linkage will certainly attract advertisers to take the spots because advertising is a numbers game. Certainly you are not indicting the American capitalist system or free speech, not if you truly love America. We take the good with the bad here, that's what makes us strong and more importantly, shows the strength of our system. That's the kind of freedom we are spreading.

Look again. I said "far-leftists" (not "the left") were disproportionately powerful, which is true. They exert tremendous power in the Democratic Party. The average Democrat is about as liberal as Joe Lieberman, but their nominees are chosen by wacked-out, black-helicopter fringe loonies.

I am amused by your backhanded insinuation that criticizing leftist support of anti-American hate somehow suggests I am somehow against free speech. It's like the scene in Animal House where Otter accused the Dean of being anti-American for trying to throw the Deltas off campus.

. Certainly you are not indicting the American capitalist system or free speech, not if you truly love America
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Oh I am willing to accept that Kos and his group have a right to free speech. Actually I prefer them to fully expose themselves.

THEN those who oppose their views can ALSO take use of their own rights to free speech and assembly.


It's odd that saying America is a Nation of Nazis is Free Speech, but opposing view points are not?

Let the slugs come out from under their rocks exercsie Free Speech so that we may know them for what they are.

Then I am to assume that you would equally deplore a far right agenda creeping into President Bush's policies, which, in point of fact, some have. e.g.: setting up a redundant AIDS program in Africa, and de-funding our participation in a nearly duplicative international effort, with the one exception that our new program does not include any educational initiatives that are incosistent with the right's "abstinence-only" position. "No Rubbers for Rwanda," I call it.

There are other examples as well. His Constitutional Amendment against gay marriage comes to mind. Talk about dispoportional power. The far right has a seat at the table. The best the far left can do is drool through the gates.

I have often been reminded of my favorite movie, "Animal House," when I hear the administration speak of economic policy or the conflict in the middle east as well. I remember Kevin Bacon being flattened by the crowd after trying to hold back the tide, screaming, "Remain calm, all is well." I'm glad we are in agreement on so many of these issues. :^)

Mark the most effective anti HIV/AIDS program is the one from Uganda which stresses abstinence until marriage, fidelity within marriage, and condoms as a last resort. The result of this far right program, which was accompanied by an emphasis on marriage as a good social value, is that Uganda's AIDS infection rate decllined considerably. Do the research yourself and see that condoms do not halt AIDS transmission because of the size of the virus comparative to the size of the vents in the latex.

Quoth Mark:

The far right has a seat at the table. The best the far left can do is drool through the gates.

Um, then how does that explain Boston and San Francisco's flood of gay marriages? That was far more than "drooling through the gates." In both cases, state laws were nullified, in Boston by judges (not legislators), in San Francisco by a mayor (also a non-legislator). The only drooling in these cases, were by self-appointed autocrats who have no clue what their boundaries of power are.

"Too bad Fox hasn't covered left wing activism better."

Ironically, the left has the same gripe with the mainstream media.

However, if the left is to be faulted for its activism, the right is to be faulted for its passivism, the expectation that someone else (like FOX, for instance) will do the work.

When was the last time tens or hundreds of thousands of conservatives assembled to demonstrate and bear witness to their political convictions? Why do only a handful of counter-protesters turn out at the left's protests and rallies? A man could think the right wing doesn't take itself seriously. After all, despite all the rhetoric about "supporting the troops," few of you "patriots" are lining up outside the military recruitment centers for a chance to stick it to the enemy at home and abroad.

nony: Perhaps we're too busy earning our keep to counter-demonstrate? Take a look at the groups who show up, and you'll see why conservatives are willing to let them rot in their own lunacy.

And before you accuse me of not being patriotic enough, you should know that my medical history prevented me from enlisting in 1992. In the meantime, a close friend is in the theater right now, working casualty ops. Damn straight I'd trade places with her in a heartbeat, but I can't. So I stay here and pray, send her encouraging words, and only wish I could do more.

America hating has been a fixture of American life since the 1960's. Some of the America haters of that era have become the tenured professors of today. It's one aspect of the character of some people who make up the American political left. And they're not going to change. Fortunately, they are not taken seriously by many people, and there are other people around to point out why they are nuts.

Osama has presented the America haters with a great opportunity. They can mediate with him to try to bring about "peace".

popd: Let them follow in Rachel Corrie's footsteps, to the logical end of their philosophies.

Mark Adams If you will accept any creed, do not be upset when there are others who will accept no creed at all. Better to have one that comes from Authority, than to claim you are the Authority and allow others the same latitude.

Chastity is a virtue. Abstinence is a self-imposed control that demonstrates a willingness to subjugate passion. Those who would look away rather than confront, and ignore rather than refute immoral behavior are giving silent consent. That is as wrong as the wrong behavior.

If "No Rubbers for Rwanda" is your idea of humor, you say much of yourself and nothing of the plight of your fellow man.

Helen, I have not done the research, but my understanding is that in deference to the right, we pulled out of otherwise sucessful programs to begin a competitive initiative. If I am correct, then the Ugandan program you speak of no longer can expect US support. Of course abstinence works best. That is a priori, however, being ignorant of alternatives, while never professing to being a sure thing, is at least something which is better than noithing.

gus3, Resorting to civil disobedience is a sure sign that you are not a policy maker. The extreme version of this can be argued to manifest itself as terrorism. You my friend must return to civics class.

And as for the preaching by Cap'n DOC , you should realize that humor can be a very effective tool for persuasive dialogue. George Carlin said that, "religion is like a lift in your shoe. If it fits and you feel better with it, that's great. But let's not nail shoes on the natives' feet, OK?" DOC, when you fall off your high horse, laugh while you rub your ass in stead of crying, people will think you all the better man for it.

Mark: I think I see where your comment is coming from, but I wouldn't call it "civil disobedience." It's more like "hating yourself because you're not a disadvantaged minority," which is what led the departed Ms. Corrie on the path to her grave.

Actually, that ties in with my previous comment about the anti-war rally groups. The main problem with Communism (as it was actually practiced, not Marxism), and its front group Industrial Workers of the World, is that in order to make everyone equal, they can only make everyone equally miserable. This is one of the fatal flaws of "Islamic" terror groups: rather than take part in the continuous improvements afforded by a free society, they can only attempt to destroy that which stands in judgment of their failure. So, the IWW naturally shows up at the anti-war rallies, to defend the enemies of their enemy.

Gah. Sorry about the run-on sentences. The dots are connected in my mind; I just hope you can see what I'm trying to say....

(Side note: Did you try the "Preview" button before you posted?)

gus3, I'll buy that, sorry about the going back to class crack, and the failed attempt to properly unbold my html tag

Are these 500 additional links actually from people who added him to their linklist? Or are many of them from people who may despise him but mentioned him...with a link..in posting about why they despise him? I think TLB captures both...

Are these 500 additional links actually from people who added him to their linklist? Or are many of them from people who may despise him but mentioned him...with a link..in posting about why they despise him? I think TLB captures both...

Mark: Accepted.

DF: Probably both. Trackback pings don't really care if you're agreeing or disagreeing.

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