Of course it also doesn't help that he infers that Dr. Rice hadn't heard of Al Quaida, when clearly she had been speaking about it for some time.

Of course Trudeau and truth parted ways many years ago.

Worst thing about him is he hasn't been funny or relevant for 25 years.

As much as I dislike Trudeau and wish the worst for him, that isn't what I would call a big deal. If anything, he's showing disrespect for the President by suggesting that the President would give Rice a demeaning, racist nickname. Of course, being disrespectful to the President is sort of Trudeau's job as a editorial cartoonist for the opposition, so I can't really complain about it.

Trudeau isn't being a racist, he's a bore who's joking that the President is a racist boor.

Typical, but not offensive.

"Brown Sugar". Well, it conjurs up an image in my mind, but the vision ain't wearing a business suit-dress.

"Although consistently a strident supporter of the Democratic Party..."

Why the "although"?

gek:

i used "although" to say that Trudeau's partisanship is expected - but this level of a slur is not. hmmmm. i think i conveyed that correctly.

I suppose somebody reads Trudeau's '70's time wrap drivel since it appears in my newspaper everyday. But it appears that I don't know any of those people. Must be my Pauline Kael moment.

"wrap"? Er... that's "warp". The preview function is only as good as the poster who uses it. Time for another Fat Tire...

Mitch H has got it right. The punchline is Bush uses a racial slur in his belittling, controlling approach to his toadies. It also fits with the proud-of-ignorance good-'ol'-boy persona he's cultivated. In response, there was a little Rolling Stones a capella rolling through my office this morning...

Off the top of my head, I still think the Cooksey (R-La) quote "If I see someone come in and he's got a diaper on his head and a fan belt around that diaper on his head, that guy needs to be pulled over and checked." takes the cake for racial intolerance in "these troubling times".

rooser, I hope you got that I don't think the President is a racist. As for the Cooksey bullshit, fine - but just remember along with that the fact that the "people need to be careful about what they say" line that got Ari Fleischer in so much hot water with the lib-left scorpions was in direct, condemnatory response to Cooksey's racist twaddle. He wasn't talking about dissidents, he was condemning anti-Muslim, xenophobic rhetoric.

Mr. Trudeau quickly forgot a very telling incident:

A few months ago, when the CiC sneaked into Iraq to serve dinner to the troops, he and Condi left the Crawfordsville ranch "incognito". The idea was, as he stated, "to look like any ordinary couple."

I'd like to tattoo that to my ass, and then show Mr. Trudeau what a full moon looks like. (And believe me, mine is VERY full!)

What's that sound? Oh yes, the empty echo of right-wingers concerned about "racism". By the way, gus3, the troops really loved that fake turkey.

Now lets be fair...

I wouldn't mind getting some of that "Brown Sugar" myself... :D



Anyway, why in the world do we take comic strips and celebrities so seriously?

It's entertainment.

I often get annoyed at GBT's obvious bias, but I've been reading him since before Watergate, and I'll keep on reading him until he stops writing.

Why?

Because he usually makes me laugh. That's his job, and as long as he keeps doing it, I'll overlook his politics.

eric: Then Mr. Trudeau belongs on the humor page, where fantasy is the rule of the day.

The problem is, he thinks this is the truth. Then again, his life revolves around spin and manufactured perception. After all, guess who his wife is.

Blue Demon,

Did you watch any of the Thanksgiving video? No? Then please read the 1500 posts in November explaining the visit.

SIGH.

Blue Demon: Of course, it wouldn't be good enough for you. Even if it was the finest turkey in the world, you'd manage to find a way to complain about it, right? Never mind that the troops themselves wouldn't have cared if all they got was a hot dog and a soda.

Get a life.

ahhh who gives a flying flip?
you are being a tad bit too politically correct dont cha think?
im sick of this african american crap too.. they are americans.. end of story. Im not a danish-american im an american. i mean if you want to get down to brass tax, i am pangea-blue green algae-african-moving towards fertile crescent-danish-american...
so there, call my a white danish, i dont care

So, could I see the proof that the turkey was fake? I must have missed that one.

I also agree that the larger issue is Trudeau's blind acceptance of Clarke's flat out, discredited lie used widely by the left to slander Rice.

All it does is put Rice front and center. There must be some non-zero percentage of the black vote that can see Dr Rice for what she is. That is what really kills the Democrat Party. They have no Rice's, or even Powell, who would be a natural old style, pre-Gore fiasco mainstream Democrat, but who is too 'inauthentic' to be allowed into that party on his own terms now.

You're all acting like Trudeau made this up. That's Bush speaking in the cartoon. The cartoonist just draws the events. Duh!

What’s that sound? Oh yes, the empty echo of right-wingers concerned about “racism”. By the way, gus3, the troops really loved that fake turkey.

Posted by: Blue Demon at April 7, 2004 06:16 PM
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The troops welcome of the CinC was overwhelmingly positve, Boy that really tears you up don't it?

I suppose that since Trudeau is so morally superior politically and all, that racial slurs by him do not count?

What a feeding frenzy there would have been had a conservative figure done something like this.

Reminds me of the total media silence that ensued when Gepharhdt stated, "If elected President I wil use Executive Orders to correct any wrongs done by the Supreme Court."

He and Jesse Jackson did not like a Ruling that day.
Both sides got a ruling they liked and both got one they did not like,

Only one side spoke of violating the Constitution. Had Bush said that?

The Left would have been manning the baricades and piling up paving blocks.

I've written my local paper several times demanding that Doonesbury be reomved from the comics pages. First, it just isn't funny anymore. Second, it is all political opinion. At best it belongs in the OpEd section.

I think however, that Condi has a rather thick skin when it comes to being criticized by cartoonists. Anyone remember Aaron McGruder of Boondoscks fame calling her a murderer in a television interview?

Rice is a fine, decent, competent, intelligent person. That's probably what pisses the Democrats the most. Of course she's going to get trashed today by the Democrats. What do you expect? I personally get tired of the dumb shits in the American media helping out their Demo friends by trashing capable folks who are doing their job.

Rice is a fine, decent, competent, intelligent person. That's probably what pisses the Democrats the most. Of course she's going to get trashed today by the Democrats. What do you expect? I personally get tired of the dumb shits in the American media helping out their Demo friends by trashing capable folks who are doing their job.

I have been watching the attacks on Condi by the left increase in intensity for the last couple of weeks. I am beginning to think they are terrified of her, that she might just be nominated for President one day, and what will the liberal twits do then. Continue their attacks on a smart, educated, black woman.

Kind of funny.

Eric: what you said about not minding getting some of that brown sugar yourself is also the base implication of Trudeau's cartoon. When he has GWB say it, by extension, it raises questions. You're right, it is a sexual and intimate term, that's the point I made on my blog. The way Trudeau uses it, it is also racist because he employs it as a put down. Think about it in the entire context, and that's where you end up. Condi's good for a piece cuz she don't know nuthin'.

Funny as hell. If you're not laughing you need to grow a funny bone.

Condi probably was used to referring to Al-Qaeda as Osama, or Osama's group. It's no big deal if she slipped up on the terminology, she knew Osama's group.

The 9/11 intelligence error, like most such errors, like that of Pearl Harbor, comes about when resources are insufficient. For example, Pearl Harbor: the whole thing hinged on the radar and 2 men, one a trainee. It would have taken too much fuel to have a constant air patrol circling the island at an 800 mile radius so the radar became crucial. When you have a situation where an entire system is dependent on one element, and you don't realize that that one element might be crucial, you sometimes lose the gamble.
In the case of 9/11, if there had been 2 or 3 thousand additional investigators, that lead would have been followed up on. A solution would be a military that could be cross trained as investigators and such so that when an FBI thinks a lead should be followed up on, a senior administrator doesn't have to choose between following up that lead or another. All the young soldier has to do is be trained to politely research. In this case he would have been assigned the task of contacting the FAA, identifying himself, asking for the phone numbers of all flight schools and phoning each one to see which had foreign students. This would have taken him a few days. Then he could have focused on the smaller group of schools with middle eastern students. Then he could have gotten the INS documents of those students from the schools. Etc., etc. Then he could have delivered the student's pictures and names to the appropriate agency and reported the result to his agent. But the thing that smart people will not overlook is that while he is doing this, there are 3000 other soldiers doing similar things because noone knows which of the 3000 is following a true and fruitful lead.
In the early days of the Dolphins football team, some comments were made regarding its "robustness". If a player was injured, there was another who could fill his position at a very high level of ability. If the fill-in got hurt, there was a 3rd who could do nearly as well. Knocking out one position did not cripple the team's performance. This is the opposite of Pearl Harbor and 9/11 due to cost and experience. Remember, it costs alot of money to pay for high quality backup. That's why I think they should train the intelligent young soldiers to work as respectful information gatherers. Perhaps women soldiers would excell. You get the idea, give the agents about 20 research assistants.

This whole issue regarding Ms. Rice has been making my blood boil.

Look at pictures of her in Time, Newsweek (spit), newspapers, etc., she is shown as looking mad or the like 90% of the time! Well, maybe she is a serious person and that is her predominant look, but I do not recall the press being so "down" on Anita Hill!

I think "popb" has the right slant. However, I think what pisses the Press and Democrats off so much is that she is in a REPUBLICAN administration!!

They have made the last 3 1/2 years out to be a coordinated attack on George W. Bush AND EVERYTHING RELATED TO HIM. You Demonize the individual (the President), and through the continuous barrage of negative exposure -whether any of its true or not - he gets a Bum Rap!

Come'on, that Anti-Christ so-and-so from Clinton's days is still out there and doesn't all this resemble what he and his minions have practiced for years??

I am talking Carville and his cohorts.

The Press made a big deal out of comparing the messages coming out from the Press Secretary and other Presedential Staff when they commented on Clarke BUT they sure do not compare the same from ALL the Democrats when they comment on Bush. I cannot believe there aren't emails, letters, etc., that have been sent to Democratic "leaders" to assist them in saying the same message...

Yes, I have voted primarily Republican since 1971 but I ALWAYS strive to vote my mind and heart for whoever I choose to vote for, AND NEVER have I voted a straight ticket. Never.

Where is NOW, Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Coaltion, the NAACP??? Here is an educated, successful WOMAN, who is of African descent, and no one in those groups (or the like) are out there defending her.

Talk about standards - or lack thereof!!!!

I don't really see how "brown sugar" is racist...
In what way does that phrase characterize Condi's race, black, as being in some way lesser to other races?
I'm not seeing it. That phrase reminds me of something Shaft would say...
I don't see how the use of the word racist comes into play here. There are probably other terms that could be used to describe that phrase, but racist isn't one of them.

That aside, the comic is still peddling the lie about Condi not knowing about al-Qaida...

I wouldn't get too exercised about all this. Trying to turn any criticism of Rice into a charge of racism will be the Republicans next tactic as things start to slip, just like nikita tried to do above. Kinda pathetic.

But hey, it worked for OJ, right wingers?

Give me a break! This is simply a parody of Dubya's well-known personal practice of name-calling to help him remember who is who.
For example, he has referred to Russian Vladimir Putin as "Pootey-Poot." So, he's going to call Clarke "stretcher" and already thinks
of Rice as "brown sugar." It might be a parody, but it's pretty darn close to the truth about how Bush thinks.

Rice is a fine, decent, competent, intelligent person. That’s probably what pisses the Democrats the most. Of course she’s going to get trashed today by the Democrats.

Riiight, that's what we Democrats do. Find fine, decent, competent, intelligent persons and trash them. We cannot stand them, my precious, no we can't.

Listen to yourselves get all upset over a comic strip, then trying to lay the blame on Democrats.

I've been reading Doonesbury and not missed one since oh, 1970-something, bought all the reprints from the Yale years, and am proud to be a big fan. His cartoon - relegated (or promoted) to the editorial page off the funnies in most papers I read - is like Peanuts was - another world, parallel to ours, where I could get away every day.

Although I'm a big fan, I didn't like the "brown sugar" reference. I winced at it and thought, "oh he's going to get in trouble over this one." And he has, and rightfully so.

But I also remember when he did the series "In Search of Regan's Brain," and people got upset.

I agree with the post that said it's more a reflection of how Bush might nickname Ms. Rice than an intentional racial slur.

Trudeau is a comedian who works in print rather than onstage. Lighten up folks - it is, after all, just a cartoon.

Is anyone aware of any politically conservative cartoons, and where they can be found? There used to be many floating around during the Clinton years, but they are hard to find these days.

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