The Command Post - Op-Ed - Hamas - An Editorial So Nice We Printed it Twice

March 24, 2004

Hamas - An Editorial So Nice We Printed it Twice

I thought I would take the liberty (because I can) of re-printing Alan E Brain's editorial from June of 2003 - Hamas in their own Words.

Now that Hamas is in the news more than ever, this piece might help people who are unfamiliar with this particular group gain an understanding of who they are.

HAMAS IN THEIR OWN WORDS
By Alan E. Brain for The Command Post

Many people (myself included) have wondered about the nature of Hamas, whose leaders are now officially targets for the IDF. Recently, I found (courtesy of Yale University's Avalon Project) the "Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement", otherwise known as the Hamas Covenant, which clearly states the nature of the organisation, its aims and aspirations.

It contains things that surprise me, but in retrospect shouldn't have. (Not for the first time - I was aghast when I found out that Itzak Shamir, ex-PM of Israel, once headed a group that proposed an alliance with the Nazis against the British). No-one really believed what Adolph Hitler said in Mein Kampf until he started to implement the Endlosung, the "Final Solution". Think the comparison is invalid (as I tend to do when anyone ever starts talking about Nazis)? Read on, to find out exactly what Hamas's beliefs and aims are.

WARNING : May be offensive to Freemasons, Rotarians, members of the Lions Club, and other tools of the International Zionist Conspiracy (just read it, OK? I can't make this stuff up.

Some quotes;

Article Two:
The Islamic Resistance Movement is one of the wings of Moslem Brotherhood in Palestine. Moslem Brotherhood Movement is a universal organization which constitutes the largest Islamic movement in modern times.

So while "Moslem Brotherhood" and "Hamas" are not synonyms, Hamas is part of the Moslem Brotherhood - support for it is support for Hamas.

Article Eight:
Allah is its target, the Prophet is its model, the Koran its constitution: Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes.

Taken literally, this would lead to Hamas members becoming Human Bombs to kill unbelievers. Hmm, I guess we do have to take this document's words literally, no matter how unbelievable. OK....

Article Six:
The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine, for under the wing of Islam followers of all religions can coexist in security and safety where their lives, possessions and rights are concerned....

Given the situation where Sharia law is practiced, I have grave misgivings about the truth of this proposition, but at least the intent is relatively sane and rational.

Article Seven:
...
"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."
(related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).

You know what I said about "sane and rational"? I take it all back. Still, you can find equally crazy things in the Bible, the Torah, the Bhagavid-Ghita etc etc. But these people take it literally.

Article Ten:
As the Islamic Resistance Movement paves its way, it will back the oppressed and support the wronged with all its might. It will spare no effort to bring about justice and defeat injustice, in word and deed, in this place and everywhere it can reach and have influence therein.

More rationality, few could quarrel with these words as worthy objectives.

Article Eleven:
The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up.
...
This is the law governing the land of Palestine in the Islamic Sharia (law) and the same goes for any land the Moslems have conquered by force, because during the times of (Islamic) conquests, the Moslems consecrated these lands to Moslem generations till the Day of Judgement.

This includes Spain, France as far north as Tours, India, and all parts of Europe east of Vienna. Osama Bin Laden is not alone in not accepting the "Tragedy of Andalucia" as he put it in one of his tapes, and so will continue to fight as long as Spain remains outside of the Caliphate. Hamas says they will do likewise, unless this translation is erroneous.

Article Twelve:
Nationalism, from the point of view of the Islamic Resistance Movement, is part of the religious creed. Nothing in nationalism is more significant or deeper than in the case when an enemy should tread Moslem land. Resisting and quelling the enemy become the individual duty of every Moslem, male or female. A woman can go out to fight the enemy without her husband's permission, and so does the slave: without his master's permission.

An interesting section from a Feminist perespective : to praise because it gives the Right of Women to blow themselves up (as long as they kill unbelievers), or to condemn because it portrays women as slaves? To an old Abolitionist like me, any slavery is odious, whether it be due to gender or otherwise, and I don't value the right to become human dynamite very highly.

Article Thirteen:
Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement....

OK, so they're being consistent. Peace is impossible as long as Hamas exists(and Israel, Spain, and India aren't under Sharia law). Rigghhht.

Article Fifteen:
...It is necessary that scientists, educators and teachers, information and media people, as well as the educated masses, especially the youth and sheikhs of the Islamic movements, should take part in the operation of awakening (the masses). It is important that basic changes be made in the school curriculum, to cleanse it of the traces of ideological invasion that affected it as a result of the orientalists and missionaries who infiltrated the region following the defeat of the Crusaders at the hands of Salah el-Din (Saladin). The Crusaders realised that it was impossible to defeat the Moslems without first having ideological invasion pave the way by upsetting their thoughts, disfiguring their heritage and violating their ideals. Only then could they invade with soldiers.

So the Renanaissance, the Enlightenment, in fact all of Western Civilisation is all just a plot, hatched over 8 centuries, to win the Crusades. Damn Cunning, these Fiendish Occidentals! These people really believe this....

Article Seventeen:
The Moslem woman has a role no less important than that of the moslem man in the battle of liberation. She is the maker of men. Her role in guiding and educating the new generations is great. The enemies have realised the importance of her role. They consider that if they are able to direct and bring her up they way they wish, far from Islam, they would have won the battle. That is why you find them giving these attempts constant attention through information campaigns, films, and the school curriculum, using for that purpose their lackeys who are infiltrated through Zionist organizations under various names and shapes, such as Freemasons, Rotary Clubs, espionage groups and others, which are all nothing more than cells of subversion and saboteurs.

So Feminists, Rotarians, and Freemasons are all part of the International Zionist Conspiracy. Sorry, my bogglemeter just pegged at maximum. I'm not playing Illuminati, these people are For Real.

Article Nineteen:
...All this is utterly serious and no jest, for those who are fighters do not jest.

Believe me, we're not laughing. there's nothing funny about Psychopathic Insanity and serial Killers.

Article Twenty:
...The society that confronts a vicious enemy which acts in a way similar to Nazism, making no differentiation between man and woman, between children and old people - such a society is entitled to this Islamic spirit. Our enemy relies on the methods of collective punishment. He has deprived people of their homeland and properties, pursued them in their places of exile and gathering, breaking bones, shooting at women, children and old people, with or without a reason. The enemy has opened detention camps where thousands and thousands of people are thrown and kept under sub-human conditions. Added to this, are the demolition of houses, rendering children orphans, meting cruel sentences against thousands of young people, and causing them to spend the best years of their lives in the dungeons of prisons.
In their Nazi treatment, the Jews made no exception for women or children. Their policy of striking fear in the heart is meant for all. They attack people where their breadwinning is concerned, extorting their money and threatening their honour. They deal with people as if they were the worst war criminals. Deportation from the homeland is a kind of murder.

Such sub-human conditions that the 750,000 Palestinians that left Israel, some "ethnically cleansed" by Jewish terrorists, some just temporarily vacationing until the victorious Arab Armies killed all the Jews, have now grown to 4 millions. There's no mention of the similar number of Jews in the surrounding Arab countries that were forcibly deported, or sometimes just exterminated. To compare the survivors of the Holocaust with the perpetrators of it is a classic case of "blaming the victim". What are suicide bombings against civilians but a classic case of "collective punishment" and "shooting at women, children and old people, with or without a reason." There's still more than just a smidgeon of justice in what they say though.

Article Twenty-Two:
For a long time, the enemies have been planning, skillfully and with precision, for the achievement of what they have attained. They took into consideration the causes affecting the current of events. They strived to amass great and substantive material wealth which they devoted to the realisation of their dream. With their money, they took control of the world media, news agencies, the press, publishing houses, broadcasting stations, and others. With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the world with the purpose of achieving their interests and reaping the fruit therein. They were behind the French Revolution, the Communist revolution and most of the revolutions we heard and hear about, here and there. With their money they formed secret societies, such as Freemasons, Rotary Clubs, the Lions and others in different parts of the world for the purpose of sabotaging societies and achieving Zionist interests. With their money they were able to control imperialistic countries and instigate them to colonize many countries in order to enable them to exploit their resources and spread corruption there. You may speak as much as you want about regional and world wars. They were behind World War I, when they were able to destroy the Islamic Caliphate, making financial gains and controlling resources. They obtained the Balfour Declaration, formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains by trading in armaments, and paved the way for the establishment of their state. It was they who instigated the replacement of the League of Nations with the United Nations and the Security Council to enable them to rule the world through them. There is no war going on anywhere, without having their finger in it.

Ummmmmm...... Genuine Moonbats. we're talking serious reality dysfunction and derangement here. Any moment now they'll start babbling on about the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion".

Article Twenty-Eight:
The Zionist invasion is a vicious invasion. It does not refrain from resorting to all methods, using all evil and contemptible ways to achieve its end. It relies greatly in its infiltration and espionage operations on the secret organizations it gave rise to, such as the Freemasons, The Rotary and Lions clubs, and other sabotage groups. All these organizations, whether secret or open, work in the interest of Zionism and according to its instructions. They aim at undermining societies, destroying values, corrupting consciences, deteriorating character and annihilating Islam. It is behind the drug trade and alcoholism in all its kinds so as to facilitate its control and expansion.

So the International Zionists control the UN, the drug trade, the alcohol industry, the Freemasons, Lions, Rotarians... and it's all a part of an 800 year plot by the Crusaders.

Article Thirty-One:
The Islamic Resistance Movement is a humanistic movement. It takes care of human rights and is guided by Islamic tolerance when dealing with the followers of other religions.

<sarcasm>Whew! That's a relief!></sarcasm>

It does not antagonize anyone of them except if it is antagonized by it or stands in its way to hamper its moves and waste its efforts.

In other words, do what we say, ad no-one gets hurt.

Under the wing of Islam, it is possible for the followers of the three religions - Islam, Christianity and Judaism - to coexist in peace and quiet with each other. Peace and quiet would not be possible except under the wing of Islam. Past and present history are the best witness to that.

As for Hindus or Buddhists - they don't count.

It is the duty of the followers of other religions to stop disputing the sovereignty of Islam in this region, because the day these followers should take over there will be nothing but carnage, displacement and terror. Everyone of them is at variance with his fellow-religionists, not to speak about followers of other religionists. Past and present history are full of examples to prove this fact.

We are the Master Race - er - Religion, destined to rule all Untermenschen - er - inferior religions, in a Thousand Year Reich - er - Caliphate.

Article Thirty-Two:
...The Zionist plan is limitless. After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying.

There! Told you the good old Protocols would be making an appearance.

Summary:

Islam is the Master Religion, it is the duty of all other religions to peacefully submit to co-existence under the benevolent rule of Islam
Spain, Most of France, Israel, Europe east of Vienna, and India should be under Sharia Law
Until this is achieved, in full and in every particular, there can be no Peace
And any violence (as well as the French and Russian Revolutions, WW I and WW II) is all the fault of the Zionists, and their puppets, the Freemason, Rotarians, Lions Club, and 800-year-old Crusader Conspiracy against Islam

There's always a danger in any article quoting from another that parts may be taken out of context, that the lilly may end up being gilded. So rather than take my word for it, read what the original article actually says - then tell me where I've gone wrong with my interpretation. Because if I've got it right, then this organisation must be destroyed, root and branch, purely as a matter of self-defence. Especially if you're a Freemason, Rotarian or Lion.

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And there you have it. Discuss as needed.

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Comments

Yes, of course. TOTAL EXTERMINATION. I have said that before. You cannot negotiate with TOTAL INSANITY, you can just kill it.

Posted by: leaddog2 at March 24, 2004 05:36 PM

How many? Who really knows? Probably 100,000 or so hard core killers? The rest, well, time will tell.

Posted by: leaddog2 at March 24, 2004 05:38 PM

Don't be fooled by the proponents of the so-called religion of peace. Hamas is not a rogue movement outside of quranic teachings. It is doing nothing else than to go back to the roots of islam. I am quoting from the book "Behind the Veil" (http://answering-islam.org.uk/BehindVeil/content.html) chapter 2:

"... Those who say that the Islamic wars were always defensive do not understand Islam and have not read sufficient history. It should be evident that offensive wars to spread Islam are the heart of the entire religion of Islam. They embody the meaning of "Striving for the cause of God"-holy war to make the Word of God supreme over the whole world. Our study will be filled with objective quotes from the statements of scholars, along with a throng of true stories.

The Sayings and Deeds of Muhammad and His Companions

One of Muhammad's popular claims is that God commanded him to fight people until they become Muslims and carry out the ordinances of Islam. All Muslim scholars without exception agree on this. Muhammad said:

"I have been ordered by God to fight with people till they bear testimony to the fact that there is no God but Allah and that Mohammed is his messenger, and that they establish prayer and pay Zakat (money). If they do it, their blood and their property are safe from me" (see Bukhari Vol. I, p. 13).

Scholars understood this claim to mean the waging of offensive wars against unbelievers in order to force them to embrace Islam as individuals or communities. This is exactly what Muhammad himself did in carrying out God's commandment to him.

Azhar's Scholars in Egypt

In his book, "Jurisprudence in Muhammad's Biography", the Azhar scholar, Dr. Muhammad Sa'id Ramadan al-Buti says the following (page 134, 7th edition):

"The Holy War, as it is known in Islamic Jurisprudence, is basically an offensive war. This is the duty of Muslims in every age when the needed military power becomes available to them. This is the phase in which the meaning of Holy War has taken its final form. Thus the apostle of God said: 'I was commanded to fight the people until they believe in God and his message ..."'

Dr. Buti deduces from Muhammad's statement that this is the concept of offensive war-this is Holy War as it is known in Islamic jurisprudence. Notice by his statement also that this matter is a duty incumbent on every Muslim in every age. The time will come when East and West, as well as politicians and military personnel all over the world will realize that the real military danger is the Islamic community. When the needed military power becomes available to them, they will wage wars and invade other countries! ..."

You may think that these folks are nutcases. No, in reality they just go back to the essence of islam.

MR

Posted by: MR at March 24, 2004 11:21 PM

No Mr, these are nice people that weave nice carpets and build ornate structures..they dont want to kill us at all. It is the evil Bush and Haliburton profits that are the real enemies of peace lovers everywhere. Western, liberal democracies are eeevil. Fanatical Muslims are just misunderstood and cudly with their long beards and all..

//Heavy Sarcasm.//

Posted by: Dog at March 25, 2004 12:47 AM

Leaddog2: It must be something in the Edwards Aquifer that allows reason, to overcome morals.

The Crusaders were not properly armed. We are. I have taken a lot of Flak here, for pointing out the obvious, that we need to exterminate the Muslim's before they have the ability to exterminate us. The logic behind my argument seems to be overlooked, by the moral objections within our society, not to hurt any innocents. That might prove to be a fatal flaw in Christian based Western Democracies.

Due to stiff resistance, to my plan ( Constructive Genocide ) to assure my children's safety, I would like to propose a compromise solution.

Let me introduce you to my new "If you cant join em, beat em" plan. Lets simply show the Muslim World how much better we can be at 21st Century Terrorism than them. Ever time we are attacked, lets wipe 10 Mosques, and 10 schools of the face of the planet. Then Stop, and announce that we will not attack any more, until another attack against us occurs. Then when it does, we disenfranchise 20 more Mosques and 20 Schools. And throw in a major Holy Site every time. And repeat this pattern, until we are sure that these so-called Humans have no power to reason what so ever.

Posted by: Redneck Texan at March 25, 2004 09:42 AM

Rdeneck Texas,

Actually, I have just been shot at and fired back to protect myself and my buddies. What should concern Muslims is that your suggestion is beginning to make a whole lot of sense to normally peaceful people like me?

Posted by: leaddog2 at March 25, 2004 09:58 AM

"And any violence (as well as the French and Russian Revolutions, WW I and WW II) is all the fault of the Zionists, and their puppets, the Freemason, Rotarians, Lions Club, and 800-year-old Crusader Conspiracy against Islam."

What?? No mention of the Trilateral Commission or the Bavarian Illuminati? Fluoridation of drinking water?

I mean, reading through this, you'd almost expect it to have something in there about "preserving the integrity of Islam and the purity of our precious bodily fluids."

Whackjobs.

Posted by: Curt at March 25, 2004 01:10 PM

I wonder why people are crying over the death of the spiritual leader of this group. None of them could have possibly read this Covenant.

Posted by: popd at March 25, 2004 04:58 PM

RT You met and exceeded all expectations. Now what? When were you planning on beginning this Pogrom (I spelled it rightly) in the US? Geeesh.

NOT in my neighborhood.

Posted by: Cap'n DOC at March 25, 2004 06:23 PM

Just a thought, mind you:

If Israel wants to get down on the Hamas-level of 21st century conflict, why don't they light up a couple of these funeral processions? They are chock-full of armed Hamas members, mourners and rabble-rousers. Ten to fifteen snipers and a few Hellfire missiles would really give the blood-thirsty deceased the proper send-off.

Try a few Hamas twists (turn-about's fair play), line the funeral processing with tank mines and detonate them in an inward ripple (both ends toward the middle); pack vehicles along the parade route with C4 and nails dipped in warfarin. Then, when the Palestinian ambulances arrive, set off the 2nd wave of explosions and kill all the rescue personnel.

When one side fights an unrestricted 21st war and the other observes Queensbury rules, only one side is assured of losing.

After several funeral massacres, Palestinians will either sue for peace or pack up and move.

Posted by: torpedo_eight at March 25, 2004 06:44 PM

Now, I like Torpedo's plan too. I'm for any plan that works. The current one dont.

Cap,n as long as your neighborhood is not breeding groups of people trying to kill me and you, It is not on my target list. I should have mentioned, the "over there" part.

Right now, we are speaking a language they dont understand. Lets learn to "Speak their Language".

Posted by: Redneck Texan at March 25, 2004 08:58 PM

Damn, Capn: You really did spell it right, didnt you.

POGROM

Posted by: Redneck Texan at March 25, 2004 09:05 PM

Dammit, have any of you, seen that report running on CNN. If you trust the translator, there is the Palestinian mother of last weeks 14 year old suicide bomber, saying she "could not honestly say, that she would attempt to stop her remaining children from doing the same".

Tell me again, why its my fault these people got so insane.

How do you compete with that irreversable level of hatred.

Posted by: Redneck Texan at March 25, 2004 10:31 PM

RT: Easy. You reverse it. It's been done before, so we know it can happen.

Notice that I'm not saying it will be easy. Nor am I saying it will happen within one generation. The problem is that those who are most able to reverse it have either left the area or died.

Posted by: gus3 at March 25, 2004 11:11 PM

T8

Now your talking. I have been saying this for years. Here you have a target rich environment, dripping with ones that want you all dead and they dont let the Apache birds fly with mini guns blazing!? I don't get it frankly. I would say ok i'ts war and have a few drops of cluster munitions followed by 20mm cannon strafing runs and let the dead bury the dead.

Posted by: Dog at March 26, 2004 01:54 AM

Chilling indictment and thrilling read Alan E. Brain.

All Islam must make a choice. Side with the jihadist and woe that it should come to that, for America will prevail in the end and your people and your lands will be reduced to glass and vapor.

All the Gaza mass murder gangs talk about Palestinian soveriegnty in front of the cameras, but seek the destruction of Israel from the bomb making factories in Bethleham.

There will be no peace in the ME until all the Gaza mass murder gangs are eliminated. Ten thousand years of vengeance and blood lust and religious fundamentalism will not be easily or swifty changed, but there is no hope of negotiating a settlement with the jihadists. The jihadist understand and respect one thing - the sword

- we must give it to them. Al Quaidi is the dragon that must be slain and we must deprive the beast of nourishment, unearth its lair, and smote off the dragons head.

Islamic leadership must raise their voices in unison and denouce, divorce from and utterly reject jihadist islam or suffer the fiery consequences. All Islam must examine the tactics and objectives of the jihadist mass murder gangs, who kill Muslim children as savagely as Jews or Americans, and accept that these gangs of sexually repressed psychotic mass murderers mesmerized by the promise of 72 browned eyed vigins - are a depraved and malignant brood that proselytiziing a primitive perversion of Islam, - that America must and target and forcefully remove like a cancer from the body human.

You might want to consider some separation.

Posted by: Tony Foresta at March 26, 2004 02:11 AM

The problem is, your too weak. and the left are soft and so hug-gable. they will protest and win the war before it starts. You loose. We will chip away at you from within. Challenging your laws, erasing your religion, with the help of your own leftist weaklings. Law and order will collapse, and our people will multiply like rats. then we will start demanding Sharia law in our communities to keep us safe, and you will agree. And slowly we will take over, even if it takes 100 years. you will simply melt away, like Europe is showing us now.
Then a little violence and it's all over. America will be Islamic, and your children or grandchildren will be prostrating to Allah.

Posted by: Allah's messenger at March 26, 2004 05:36 AM

Whew! I scared myself writing that one! But thats exactly what will happen if we don't wake up. Never mind Hamas waking up the masses, they already are, we have to wake up our masses. Bush seems to be the only one who is wide awake.

and what is this nonsense?
"You know what I said about �sane and rational�? I take it all back. Still, you can find equally crazy things in the Bible, the Torah, the Bhagavid-Ghita etc etc. But these people take it literally.

Show me equally crazy things in the bible. I dare you.

Posted by: Fat Guy at March 26, 2004 05:40 AM

Biblically, It says we can only delay the inevitable, through faith, and nipping this in the butt before Europe becomes hopeless, which it is near now. If the west is too weak, meaning the will is not there, it will all fall apart in the east. The Satan's spawn will ride throughout the land, and never be defeated again. These are of course, scripture of the last days. Thats why this second gulf war is important to finnish. this is the unsealing of the book of Daniel. Of couse we know, nobody believes in that stuff anymore...But how can anyone explain the uncanny simularities?
Besides, if muslims can believe in their crap, and act on it, then we can believe in our crap, and act on it and go chopping their heads off so to speak..

Posted by: Fat Guy at March 26, 2004 05:52 AM

Actually Fat Guy, millions of us will not be here for the 7 Year Tribulation period, as I am sure you know.

Posted by: leaddog2 at March 26, 2004 08:05 PM

With all due respect Redneck, lets try something else before genocide. Like perhaps, oh I don't know, lets invade an Islamc country with a leadership that no one really likes, and who makes everyone feel nervous around.

Invade that country, kick out their leadership, and hand it back to the people of that country, insisting they develope a democratic government and constitution. Give them a shot as succeeding, and thereby showing that even Muslims can be successful, just like Americans.

Then, when they become successful, but not Americans, and still Muslim, they will see that the Jews and Americans may do things differently, but that does not make them evil.

I know its a long shot and a kooky idea. But I think it will kill far less people, and does have a shot at working.

If I am wrong, we can go to your Plan B. If I am right, far fewer people die.

Posted by: ben at March 27, 2004 09:05 AM

Well ben, Thats sounds like a good compromise, long term strategic plan. Surely everone in this country and the world will agree with it. Huh.

If fact, I bet the people we shed blood for, to bring freedom to, will show us some love, you would think, huh.

Posted by: Redneck Texan at March 27, 2004 09:31 AM

1. See this Mark Durie's witness statement on DhimmiWatch in Australia. Your misgivings are quite correct about Shari'ah.

2. I've studied, as opposed to 'read', the Bible. There's nothing like Article Seven in it.

3. As far as these nuts are concerned, the whole earth used to be Muslim. Therefore, any offensive attacks they mount is, in their view, defensive. Which is why they're always yammering about defending themselves against attack.

4. Remember this, when dealing with Muslims, you've got to have a Clinton-type BS detector. This means that you who are Christian, Jewish, whatever, gotta get in the habit of saying "BS" to anything that comes out of an Islamic mouth cuz their ideology teaches them that it's okay to lie to advance the cause of Islam.

Posted by: Helen at March 28, 2004 01:10 PM