I just don't see "96 Tears" standing out over the majority of rock songs from its own era, much less overall. Why that one song?

I disagree with most every post Pass has ever posted. His blind partisan hatred for Bush has no logical basis. No one told him that the Peace & Love days of the 60s are over, and they ended in dismal failure when they came in contact with the real world of the 70s.

He firmly believes in the Liberal Ideas he spouts here, but buries his head in the ground when confronted by facts relating to the foreign policy failures of the Carter & Clinton administrations. He exaggerates the failures of the Bush administration and Ignores everything Bush has done to increase our security at home. He also cant be found here, when things are going good in Iraq.

He often posts indefensible comments in support of our enemies, with the sole intention of pissing of the more reasonable posters here, just to give himself a reason to waste an evening arguing with the supporters of the party in power.

If Kerry wins the election Pass will be cannon fodder here, for the failed liberal policies that will inevitably follow. It will be so much easier for the Conservative posters to pick and choose, in hindsight, what would have been a better course of action. Thats what Pass does now. I will be surprised if he ever reads this thread, because he never wants to suggest a better course of action for the US in the War on Terror, he just wants to stay in the "Iraq Room" and bitch about it.

However, responding to Pass's asinine posts can be very entertaining. I think he is responsible for a significant amount of the overall traffic at this website.

After having dissected his skewed views on American Foreign Policy, a visit to his Personal Blog reveals that on some other subjects, he is really a pretty cool, intelligent dude that I could party with. And I respect him for consistently defending his views here. And hope to continue to be "Turned On" by his viewpoints.

Happy Birthday Command Post. Thanks for allowing us (even those who disagree with the presiding wisdom) to voice our opinion and for keeping us all immediately and well informed.

The election should be a hoot.

PtG, thanks for the post.

Tony, thanks for showing up here after Bill kicked you out. You keep the place lively.

PtG and Tony F too : Don't get me wrong. I disagree, sometimes vehemently, with a lot that you say. More of the time it's the way it's said.
But have you ever thought why you strike such a raw nerve sometimes? Not just in the shrill hyper-patriots, but in more middle-of-the-roaders? It's because sometimes the things you say often contain uncomfortable truths. Not much, not often, but often enough to keep me uncomfortable, and thinking. 99% of your post might be stuff I can easily refute, discard, and ignore. But ah, that last 1%.... and it's sometimes uncomfortably higher than that.

Which is why you are so welcome here.

Somebody has to act as the loyal opposition. Unthinking Chants of "Bush = Hitler" are easily ignored. Reasoned discourse, and pointing out inconsistencies in the historical record aren't. The truth hurts.

Hopefully some of my posts make you feel the same way.

Lefties, Righties, and middlies. Ive been comming here for a year and everytime i think ive had enough of this place turn my back i always seem to come back a week later(at the most,and with the same damn nick). Sometimes i think my fellow posters are right, sometimes i think they are wrong, and sometimes some of you (both sides) scare the ever loving hell outa me. But reading PtG's post i just had an epiphany. These conversations and rants ive read and had on these boards are with the most informed(and opinionated) group of people i have ever run into. The opinions differ in the extremes, but you at least get a sense that no-one is ignorant of the up to the minute facts. Which is something i cant say when speaking with friends or family, hell most of em dont even have a clue beyond what CNN Fox Msnbc tells them.

Boy do I agree with you Ronin. My Family, Friends, and Co-workers dont even realize a significant battle in the War on Terror is occurring in Pakistan, as we speak.

They all can tell you what happened on "Fear Factor", but are unconcerned with current events that will effect their future,

And I agree with you too, Alan. Pass, aint afraid to point out the fundamental flaws in the Republicans overall platform. And is keeping a watchful eye, on letting the party in power, get out of hand with Extreme "Law & Order" restrictions on our freedom.

Pass is funny. So is Tony F. Actually Tony F. is just mouthy. Ha!

The various "Buttons" talked about insulting me on another thread.
They are not intelligent enough to know that you can be insulted only
by someone you respect.

Pass we are not insulting you either! You can have your own thoughts
about "our intelligence". It is really O.K. you know. We do understand!

After all ..... just consider your sources ..... Liberal Demons!

Ha! O.K. Your turn!

Listen, to get back to the important stuff, 96 Tears is, in point of fact, the best song ever written, and you can't tell me there was ever a better band that Question Mark and the Mysterians. You rightwingers are goin' too far when you question that.

Whether 96 Tears is the best song ever is moot. But I will concede it is better than 7 Tears, a novelty chart-topper by the Goombay Dance Band in Blighty in the early '80s. 13.7x better, actually.

Fine, but lets have some evidence to back it up. Why?

Well, "69 Tears" woulda been a cheap shot, and 96 takes its significance from what it is not. And anybody who says:

I'm way down here Wonderin' how
I'm gonna get you
But I know now
I'll just cry, cry, I'll just cry

Obviously understrands the human condition.
But -- if a song is good for a reason, it's no good.

LOL. Pass the Gas - You slay me. Your taste in music SUCKS! :o)

Good go on Post, though. I look forward to your inciteful comments. :o)

Oh yah. I checked Webster's. I spelled it rightly.

Nah!

Your Taste in music is horrible. (Well, actually, to be honest, it might just be wierd). Ha!
Has anyone else ever heard of whoever that band was or whatever that song was? I sure haven't.

If it is Hard Rock, don't bother to explain. It's all horrible.

Well, thanks again Pass. I must have heard "96 Tears" a thousand times in my life. But never realized it was a celebration of a sex act, until you opened my ears, to the Truth.

You know Question Mark and the boys were born Redneck Texans, before moving to Michigan.

Sex act? What? Am I really missing something?

Oh yeah, 96 Tears is about a sex act, just like Billy Shears is about Paul McCartney being dead.

Jones, here is a hint:

And when the sun comes up
I'll be on top
You'll be way down there
Lookin' up


The reference to 69 is not a year, but a geometric shape :o)

Sorry Local Gal, forgot my manners....again.

Well Redneck,,

If that is the case .. then men have not learned anything in the last 30 years. Which actually, I would have to give some serious credence to.

Translating 96 into 69 is all about revisionist sexual behavior of men who now find themselves in their prime (and therefore better educated), but in their puberty and wishful dreams as “boys” they knew very little about anything other than self-gratification. So don’t try to EVEN convince me that 96 Tears is anything but …96 Tears….

Back in the time this song was written, you and all those in your age group cared very little about anything but your own sexual pleasure.

Give me a break!

You know Question Mark and the boys were born Redneck Texans, before moving to Michigan. -- Messkins, weren't they?

I don't think 96 tears is about a sex act, but two people ... back to back... turning away from each other.

RT,

I know what 69 is, you monkey.

Todd- see I called on Con a name.

I read the lyrics and if that is about a sex act it is poorly written. If it is about misery and isolation it is actually very well written. Much better than I had given it credit for. Pass, you brought me around on something. It only took a year. I still don't see greatest, but...

Pass,

Actually in my reading I learned ? is from Mars. Then he moved to Michigan.

Ok, sorry, my mistake. This is what a get for going so far off topic.

My quick research, googled this statement "Shortly afterward, ? wrote the lyrics a song he called "Too Many Teardrops" and showed them to the rest of the band; the title was changed first to "69 Tears," and then the less suggestive "96 Tears." I guess I was blinded by the complicated Organ Rift.

This song, like any religious document, can be interpreted many ways.

Texas Gal, please stop sneaking up on me like that. Its Rude. When I saw that you had posted, while I had been typing a post, It left me wishing the Command Post had a "Retract Option". For your info, I was 2 years old when the song was written. The only self gratification I was into at the time was "Potty Training".

Pass, is the real dirty old man here, lets stop being nice to him, and bust his balls for baiting me. Its all his fault. He cant be trusted. I bet he is a big supporter of " self-gratification" just look at all them " victimized women" at his website. It makes me cry "96 tears" for these innocent girls. I bet he keeps them tied up in his basement. Shame on you, you immoral, Pass.

OK, Lets see if I can tippy toe around this, without getting banned.

Jones, assume the tears, mentioned in the lyrics, are not necessarily from the organ commonly known as "eyes". It could alter the very meaning of crying.

Yes, I am a Monkey, Thank You.

Now, with those evil thoughts on your mind. Listen to the song ( Not just read the Lyrics ) and ? really seems to enjoy the Crying part. And Texas Gal, He shows the patience to make sure is partner has a good crying too, and seems to enjoy seeing her cry, down there.

All right, I got to go to church now. So just remember: Its still Pass's fault. I bet he actually wrote this song. Thats why he is pluggin it, and his website here. Liberal Greed.....He was practicing for his future carrer... As a scribe for Terrorist. He needs to be stopped now.

Your analysis is straining credulity. By your standards "You Light Up My Life" has racy undertones.

Is "Cry Me A River" about the same topic?

As I said, you can say anything is about anything, but proving it is a harder trick.

We finally get Pass on a harmless topic and you are jumping on him. Sheesh.

Im just trying to keep JohnnyMozart guessing. :o)

RT Unless you were around for the johnnymozart LaughaThon I or II, you wouldn't be privy to some of this 'innuendo'...

I did see it, belatedly, yesterday. It was hilarious.

It shed some light on the "what happened to Cap'n Spin mystery.

We finally get Pass on a harmless topic...

Actually, this is the only thread I can remember where I've actually worried about having my comment deleted. Or worse.

LOL Redneck,

That’s a good one.. “Pass made me do it!”

Here ya go, interpret this:

Three blind mice,
Three blind mice,
See how they run!
They all ran after the farmer's wife,
Who cut off their tails,
With a carving knife.
Did you ever see such a thing in your life,
As three blind mice.

Just funin’ ya!

jeez texasgal,
let's try to keep it clean.
we need some sort of parental warning here.

Ah yes, Texas Gal. I remember...That was the tragic story of Pass, x, and Tony Foresta. It chronicles their botched attempt, to capture a sex slave, in rural Maryland.

The farmers wife was actual the same woman that accused Pass, of stalking her. But his undying support for liberal causes, provided him with a top notch criminal defense attorney, and the liberal local media canned the story, when the farmers wife revealed she was not a lesbian.

Now that is some good Lit Crit.

It's really about postmodern man's blindness to the harsh reality of his own disconnectedness in a world of hypocrites, and the violence that results from the effort of constant denial.

ROFLMAO!

Y’all are a crazy bunch, that’s why I like hanging out with ya!


// Actually, this is the only thread I can remember where I’ve actually worried about having my comment deleted. Or worse.//

LOL.. well now Pass, I was going to say something about the irony of “poetic justice”.. ;-) .. but I think the thread on your posting has actually evolved into the levity we all needed for a change. I can always go back to thumpin’ ya upside the head later (no interpretation required!)

Cap'n, you gonna let Pass use a 16 letter word here, without getting on his ass.

Please, TexasGal, put down that rolling pin...

Just a note! I really doubt that many people ever heard of whatever that song was.

You're not a fan of Early Sixties Psychedelic Tex-Mex, are you leaddog2.

It didn't break many records, but I would suggest 80% of non-geek males between 35 and 50 have heard it many times. And maybe 2% of that group could tell you who sang it. Its a one hit wonder.

But I get in trouble here, every time I try to predict what people out of my personal demographic think.
It has gotten significant air play in Dallas over he years..

"It’s really about postmodern man’s blindness to the harsh reality of his own disconnectedness in a world of hypocrites, and the violence that results from the effort of constant denial."

And there is some crappy Lit Crit.

One more note. On another thread I scolled to see who wrote a post and saw Jeffers. I popped up to read it and it was really hinky. It was talking about the so called GWOT. I got to the end of it and saw I had missed Pass's name and had seen jeffers' instead. It was like expecting to drink orange juice, but drinking Maple Syrup instead. Take a look:(second and third posts)

http://www.command-post.org/2_archives/011064.html

Leaddog2... you're just a puppy, aren't you...

96 Tears was one of the great garage-band hits of the mid-sixties. A great, gloomy, bitter two-chord song based on a repetitive and very simple eighth-note organ riff (OK, there's an E-minor in the bridge, but the rest of the song is just G and C7). "Question Mark and the Mysterians" were a Tex-Mex kind of band, something like Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs but not funny -- one of the most interesting things to me is the influence of Mexican-American artists on rock-n-roll... I've heard rumors that QM and the M had another hit, but 96 Tears was the only one that got played on the radio in Arizona, where I lived.

Graham Parker and the Rumour also did a version of it, in the eighties, as I recall.

I said early sixties Pass, even though the song did not come out until 66. In my book everything before Sgt.Pepper is early sixties. And from there to the breakup in 1970 the late sixties.

I hear the late sixties did not happen in Dallas until the early 70s. My older brothers got to enjoy the party at its hieght, but my personal summer of love, was 1980.

jones, you don't think my lit-crit sounds "for real?" I thought that was pretty good.

Ah, I know, I didn't use the word "text" anywhere. Shit, I knew I'd forgotten something.

No Pass, it sounded way too real. And shows how the field has rotted.

It was a nice piece of PoMo, but it was ugly as hell.

Hey, d'ya ever see the one where the physicist wrote a parody of a lit-crit piece, and it got taken seriously and published in a journal called Social Text? The article was called "Transgressing the Boundaries: Toward a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity." It's a great story. The author's summary of the event is here: A Physicist Experiments With Cultural Studies.

Redneck Texan - 'Cap’n, you gonna let Pass use a 16 letter word here, without getting on his ass.

Nah. I wouldn't want to go overboard with my disconcertedness. It was right on the rail, though.

Sometimes I drop in on a thread just to make certain nobody has threatened dismemberment, and end up wondering what the hell is going on.

This is one of those times.

What -- we can't even threaten dismemberment any more?

Alan,

I don't think any of you have the guts to ban me.

Damn, Pass.
What is your game plan now.
That shot across Alan's bow, serves no logical purpose, that I can see.

Should I attribute it, To your lifelong battle, to "Give it to the man. Hell, nobody here, has a bigger problem with authority than me. Yet, I dont want Alan to exercise his personal right to censure my sometimes outlandish view points here.

Or is it because your tired of wasting, so large a portion of your personal life here, The Command Post has allow many household chores, to build up on me.

Or is it because, you have run out of creative liberal bullshit to spout off. And dont want to just keep repeating the same ol asinine POVs.

Or, are you angling for advertisment revenue sharing with Alan.

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. That aint really you is it. The link dont go to your website, and it aint spelled right. Its just some prick, trying to be funny.

Never mind.

It was Stillonpatrol52. I have seen him here before.
Alan should block his IP.
I will personal assault his intelligence in the future.

Although, In hindsight, it was kinda funny. And you were the butt of the joke. He cant be all bad.

Well, RT, I'm eager to see how you'll assault his intelligence...

The longer I think about it, the funnier it gets. It only pissed me off because I fell for. I did not have the inside track that you did, by knowing it wasn't yourself.

His personal integrity, is at your mental mercy. Is he somebody you have talked some of that Stupid Liberal Bullshit to, in the past. If I start defending your sorry ass, from everyone you've alienated here, My ISP will charge me extra for all the bandwidth it would take. :o)

Shit man, I don't know who he is. I don't suppose this is the first cheap shot somebody's taken at me on this here Intellectual Forum, so I'm not giving it two seconds' thought.

Thing is, the admins can see, by IP, URL, or whatever, that that wasn't me. I'm not worried about that, they're not gonna ban me for some moron's prank. I would be pissed off if somebody actually used my true given Christian name, and it went into Google for posterity's sake, saying something, like "Bush is a decent, intelligent human being." Luckily, there has been a minimum of that sort of thing -- as I recall, somebody used Anthony's name once, and kinda confused people, and acourse Cap'n Humpleg has changed names quite a few times. Well a few people have... like, is bananadeepthroater really dirk strom?

Now I know how Johnnymozart felt, thinking I might be your Alter Ego. Dont tell Johnny, I fell for the same bullshit, I pulled on him. He is just starting to talk to me, again. :o)

Kinda like the Satan Bikers for Bush thing, eh.

My cover is blown

I, for one, am shocked how low some people will stoop.

How can one undermine troops from a position of lofty authority?

BananaPooPoo You are a NitWit. Bananas are an herb, not a Fruit. Have you ever seen a BananaPlant?

Was a common RootVeggie too 'grounded' for you, dirk storm?

Pass the Gas This one is truly for you. I have used my real name here numerous times. I have also used a variety of Cap'n 'Monikers' depending upon the topic of the thread or threat. I don't want to know who you are. Frankly, Pass - I don't give a damn. Butt I have never used HumpLeg nor would I ever get that close, cuz you piddle and poopoo everywhere. I like to keep my boots clean.

OK, stay offa my leg and I won't call you that.

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