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October 14, 2003
A Dialogue with Andy Rooney
I can't help it, I have to vent my replies to Andy Rooney's October 12th commentary. You might not think so from listening to me, but I like to be liked. Not only that, I like my country to be liked around the world and it isn't. I wish President Bush would try to make this country less hated. He could do it if he set his mind to it. He is doing it--you just didn't notice. If we're so hated, why are so many millions of people so desperate to enter, stay, and become American citizens? To begin with, we should change our attitude toward the United Nations. There has to be some power in the world superior to our own - for our own sake. Iraq isn't our problem. It's the world's problem. Not any more. Iraq was a problem, but now it's an opportunity--ours and the world's. An incredible opportunity, in fact: Iraq is now on its way to becoming a free-trading, open democracy with an educated, diverse population sharing oil revenues among all its citizens and grateful to the US for its liberation. When the president spoke at the United Nations, he came off as arrogant and it made all of us seem arrogant. We are a little arrogant, of course, and we ought to watch that. Did you have those translation headphones on? Maybe the time delay threw you off. The arrogance I saw and heard at the UN came from Kofi Annan and Jacques Chirac. But if you're right, maybe the solution is to stop going there. In fact, maybe the UN would be better off moving to Geneva, Bruges or Paris. The United States can't force its ideas on the whole world. You're right, ideas like freedom, democracy, human rights, and pluralism can't be forced. The best we can do is prevent their suppression by tyranny. We have great military power and a store of nuclear and biological weapons that would send us running to the U.N. for help if any other country had as many. Other countries have had as many or more, and the UN was no help. In fact, believe it or not, our having them kept others from using theirs. The dialogue continues.... The trouble with our weapons is they don't work against one terrorist with a jar of anthrax or a religious nut with a truckload of dynamite. We're wasting our money on weapons we can't use. Wait--you really want to use these weapons? So far, just having them was worth the cost. But please don't be so quick to use them. It doesn't matter what I think, but I think like millions of Americans and they do matter. Let's read that again, Andy, a couple times. OK, you're right: they do matter. But what they think (right or wrong) doesn't. That's why we elect leaders. I was opposed to going into Iraq without the approval of the U.N. Things went well at first and I decided I was wrong and apologized. Now I want to apologize again. I want to apologize for apologizing. Andy, are you working for Wesley Clark? We should not have attacked Iraq without the OK of the United Nations. It wasn't all President Bush's fault. U.N. delegates were infuriating - sitting on their hands. It's an ineffective, namby-pamby organization. The French and the Germans were against attacking Iraq because they do a lot of business there. The UN didn't just sit on its hands--it profited from supporting a tyrant with its Oil For Palaces program. The president made the mistake though of deciding to attack anyway and now we have to live with that mistake. We're living with it and too many of our guys are dying with it. Thousands of Iraqis are grateful they can live at all thanks to that "mistake." Many of our guys have died, but nowhere near as many as would die in the next 9/11. I hope we remain the strongest country in the world but it isn't a sure thing that we'll always be what we are today. Look what's happened to Great Britain, France, and Germany. They aren't what they were. Things change in the world. It could happen to us - may be happening. It happened to the great Greek and Roman civilizations. They didn't disappear because there was anything wrong with the ideals on which those civilizations were based. They disappeared because there got to be fewer and fewer Greeks and Romans who believed in those ideals, and they were taken over by people who didn't believe in them at all. Like the UN? They certainly don't believe in them. Do you? Listen to yourself: all you want is for us to be liked, but the world hates us, we're arrogant, we shouldn't force our ideas on the world, and the UN should take over approval of our military operations. So what ideals do you believe, Andy? We've got some people who don't believe in our American ideals -- so watch out. I'm watching. I watched you, didn't I? Comments
Roony's comentary was one of the stupidest most idiotic things i have ever come across. We are all stupider for having read it. Base our foriegn policy on getting people to 'like' us? What is this, fifth grade? Amazingly, Roony basically managed to sum up the confused incoherance now on display by the democrats that voted for the war and now oppose it. Kind goes like this; "Well yes, its good that we removed Saddam, but I didnt have any idea that people might be mad at us if we did! We'll never be elected homecoming queen now!" Posted by: Mark Buehner at October 14, 2003 05:10 PM His films were crap, also. Posted by: dirk strom at October 14, 2003 05:38 PM Who in the hell is Andy Rooney? Our Ambassador to where? Oz? Posted by: Cap'n SPIN at October 14, 2003 07:30 PM This national self-loathing is really becoming a sad trend... the anti-patriotism of the liberals. Do these people really believe that the world would be a happy, safe place if the US retreated back to our mainland and didn't get involved in world politics? Why do they think that?
Posted by: Dalex at October 14, 2003 07:48 PM he's a yammering old fool addled by age and quite possibly alzhiemers, which may be an answer for his regressed way of thinking.
Posted by: rumcrook at October 14, 2003 11:03 PM Looney Rooney needs to brush up on his Roman history. The empire was distoried by greed and excessive taxation. Posted by: sam at October 14, 2003 11:36 PM Dalex, rumcrook, sam,
Posted by: Elvis at October 15, 2003 05:25 AM Just who the hell is he? Am I supposed to know this man? Is he on cable TV?
Posted by: Cap'n SPIN at October 15, 2003 07:32 AM There was an actor by the name of Mickey Rooney. Are they related? Posted by: Cap'n SPIN at October 15, 2003 07:33 AM Cap'n Spin: you really don't know? follow the link to his commentary. Posted by: clyde at October 15, 2003 10:13 AM andy rooney of 60 minutes fame. the "humorous" editorial at the end of the show... he usually discusses more important issues such as the percentage of peanuts in a can of mixed nuts and how he doesn't much care for the filberts. Posted by: wafflestomper at October 15, 2003 10:19 AM It's been a long time since I watched 60 minutes, and maybe that's the problem. If he's the guy that was on at the end and acted like a curmudgeon, I know who the guy is. Seemed like he was an old Scrooge. If that's who he is or was, I'm glad I missed his speech. Posted by: Cap'n SPIN at October 15, 2003 02:14 PM Why doesn't Andy stick to bitching about cotton in prescription bottles and credit card readers he can't figure out in department stores?
Posted by: torpedo_eight at October 16, 2003 12:53 AM hmm, cotton. I had an uncle who was allergic to cotton, but he couldn't get the medicine out of the bottle.... Posted by: clyde at October 16, 2003 05:52 PM He's out of his depth on foreign films, let alone foreign relations.
Posted by: wtf at October 19, 2003 05:47 AM wtf: Another dumb Bush joke? How droll. There must be a place for you at The Nation.
Posted by: torpedo_eight at October 19, 2003 02:14 PM Here's the Rooney crux: "There has to be some power superior to our own- for our own sake." This is the essence of the Left. The individual must be suborned to the State, and in turn the State must be suborned to some superior Power. Truly frightening. From this ideology emerges totalitarianism. We on this blog get it, but millions of voters out there do not and will not. Posted by: TomTom at October 22, 2003 09:48 AM What Andy forgets to realize is that the majority of the American people are glad that we liberated the Iraqi people. Of course we are not happy about the loss of lives. I was one of the willing that went to Iraq. Fortunately I was able to come home already. Andy needs to get in touch with something other than "his" reality. GOD bless America! Posted by: Jason Huffman at November 10, 2003 12:37 PM Churches are hospitals for sinners, rather than hotels for saints. Posted by: Hartka Rebecca at December 20, 2003 08:34 PM There's so much hatred on here it's discusting. Andy happens to be right on all accounts. Clyde and all you white supremacist freaks are complete morons. Do yourselves a favor and take a few theology classes before you all turn into serial killers. THANK YOU ANDY ROONEY. Posted by: Andrea at January 11, 2004 09:40 PM Post a comment
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