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May 12, 2003
In S. Korea, quiet talk of exit plans

This ain't cool. From the Christian Science Monitor:

Mr. Kim, a business executive here, considers his family "very patriotic." He attends club meetings, reads the papers, feels proud of Korea's rising stature in Asia.

But in the past few months - a time of rapid political change and a nuclear standoff with the North - Kim (not his real name) heard his wife counsel their son, who is studying in the US, on the phone: "Don't come back right now. Find a way to stay in the US."

Among the many undercurrents in this restless society, there's one that might be called "the discourse of departure" - an exit strategy.

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Posted by rjkoehler at May 12, 2003 01:00 AM
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I'd rather have SK immigration then from Russia, Somolia, Muslim Africa, Jamacia, etc.

SK has a very strong work ethic, and for the most part, a very non-violent society...

Posted by: Original Mark at May 12, 2003 08:27 AM

" a very non-violent society"

WAAAAY off base with that comment, Mark!

Koreans have a well-deserved reputation for violence that goes back several thousand years when the Chinese built a wall across the peninsula to keep the Koreans from raiding the peaceable Chinese.

In addition to an imbedded culture of violence to resolve disciplinary infractions in the Korean military, I’ve observed civilian Korean supervisors slap and hit subordinate employees – in Korea and Thailand – for failing to meet their expectations.

I’ve been told in recent years this propensity to violence has eased some, but I recently read when a Korean Christian denominational church in Texas was being investigated for using violence to keep “back sliding” members in line.

All in all, I would say that given the choice among all Asians, I’d rather have a Korean at my back in a combat environment.


Posted by: Jim Hogue at May 12, 2003 03:08 PM

Chinese are too political, Japanese are too buisness like. Koreans are either starving or arrogant, sometimes both. Id rather have a Gurkha watching my back thank you.

Posted by: Ronin at May 12, 2003 03:14 PM

So, at what point may we start protesting and carrying signs saying "South Koreans Go Home!"? Or would that be mean-spirited?

Posted by: BH at May 12, 2003 03:51 PM

Ronin,
I would agree with you in theory. I don't know what the state of the British - Gurkha relationship in in modern days, since 1995 or so. I know the original arrangement goes back to Queen Vickie when the Gurkhas remained loyal to the Crown during one of the interminable revolutions and uprisings that marked the British colonization of India.

I lived in England During the Falklands War and remember reading a newspaper account of a group of Argentineans soldiers who surrendered when they learned that the Gurkhas were getting ready to attack them – mainly due to the Gurkha’s reputation for dishing out mayhem and violence.

The article went on to add that the Gurkhas were so upset at being “cheated” out of a fight that the British Officers quietly withdrew while the Gurkhas threw a “snit fit” beating up on each others. I don’t recall if they ever got to vent their anger in combat. I certainly would not have wanted to face them in that state!

I heard that a retired British Officer set up a specialized guard force of Gurkhas in Hong Kong in the late ‘90s, but can’t recall the details.

My original point was that Koreans have a propensity to orgainzed - both controlled and otherwise - violence that holds them in good repute with other military types. The ROK Marines were very respected, and feared, during their involvement in S. Vietnam.

Posted by: Jim Hogue at May 12, 2003 04:34 PM

While I can say, personaly, most south koreans I have dealt with are very polite, good business people, trustworthy, and people who honor their word.
However, I haven't spent much time in their country, do a walk about, and experience day to day life there.
I am annoyed by those student protests in SK, and it adds to my uneasyness being there, even if it's just a day.

I tend to agree with the above post, in that what if we protested in the north American contenent, asking Koreans to go home?

This to me, translates to me not pursuing any expanded business with korea, call it a gut feeling, or whatever.
Stability in the region would go a long way from my point of view, and considering I export to korea, on a small scale, and still on a trial basis, it's difficult to imagine any reliability in that market considering the climate.

It's time for these South Korean student protestors to make a decision, either they want to continue in business, which they are good at, and their parents have built a very reasonable democracy, free market system, or they can revert back to the ways of Kim and the communist north.

I can sell my product elsewhere if thats their wish.
In fact, America is my best customer, and enjoy my product. I'm sure a small glut on the market from cancelled korean exports would make them very happy.

Posted by: un-easy at May 13, 2003 01:52 AM
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