I just posted this under The Iraq Page:

Iraqi Official: Zarqawi Likely Seeking WMD Materials

I also added a later comment:

Yes, I failed to mention the 1.7 TONS of low-enriched uranium (LEU) that we, yes at the request of the new provisional government flew out of Iraq without approval of the UN and or the IAEA. Do you wonder why now? When the Marines reached this facility under the guard of the IAEA, they found the guards had run off and the locals were scraping the metal containers dumpling the mess on the ground.

Yes, some of the WMD went into Syria and Lebenon. Open your eyes. Where do you suppose the gallons of VX gas came from that were fortunately intercepted by Jordan enroute to make one hell of mess came from.? Yeah, that’s right Syria. Syria doesn’t have this capability. Saddam and the Russians did. Now whey do you suppose the Russians told Saddam to get the VX stocks out of Iraq? Open your eyes folks this info is right out on the Net.

Also don’t believe everthing our news media reports.

Ron

Posted by: Ron Wrght at July 12, 2004 10:16 PM

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Ok, all, I just scanned the comments and may have overlooked some stuff. But here’s a commentary I just posted on our site which may connect some dots for you. Some of you may have seen some of the threads to this piece as it is a work in progress.

Yes, Mr. Bush you did not lie as others of alleged. Joe Wilson is a liar, liar , liar who got a cheap junket and who wouldn’t see a snake if it jumped out and bit him.

Yes, Mr. President stay the course!

Yes, Michael Moore, is an over-grown baby who can’t seem to get his facts straight if that actually made a difference.

And to the US Media, yes the Internet does exist with blogger too. You mght try reading this stuff from time to time before you really become irrelevent [sic].

That could pose a problem in your boardrooms if your profits suddenly taken a nose spin any faster than they already are!

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Moderator’s Commentary:

(This is a work in progress so bare with me for the grammatical and spelling errors I haven’t weeded out yet)

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BOOKS OF THE TIMES | ‘IMPERIAL HUBRIS’

C.I.A. Officer Critiques Terror Policy
By MICHIKO KAKUTANI

Published: July 9, 2004

A must read for both hawks and doves alike to reassess their thoughts and positions on our War On Terror. The author’s believes eliminating terrorists alone will not win the War On Terror. Unlike the Texas Rangers of the Wild West who always got their man, Osama bin Ladin others have a endless supply of recruits which will overwhelm us. Our stirring the “beehive” only produces a more intense response from the hive unless we are committed to using the overwhelming force we possess. It is the author’s assessment that our intelligence gathering ability over the last decade has become severely impaired and risk averse. It was said somewhere else unless intelligence is accompanied with bouts of diarrhea, the intelligence is inherently flawed.

The War On Terror is a clash of cultures and religions with an enemy that is transnational in nature with the common bond of radical Islamic extremism that extends from West Africa to the East Pacific. This expanse was the former Islamic Empire of “golden age” Islam of the 12th and 13th Centuries. The author says we are fighting battles that we are half- fighting which we will only fight again when overwhelming force will be the only option. This is a war of ideology. The question is who will prevail and at what cost?

The reviewer does not say if the author discusses President Bush’s fundamental shift in the Nation’s strategic policy. This shift is from regional political stability to continue the supply of cheap oil, to one, which will no longer support or recognize repressive and despotic governments to achieve that end. The later is a progressive policy that is uncharacteristic of the Republican Party and the multi-national oil interests. Have we entered a world of Alice in Wonderland? The former is the course both Republican and Democratic administrations have followed over the last half century which has given rise to the radical Islamic extremism we are now fighting. This extremism if left unchallenged, is a real threat to our very way of life, culture, and freedom. This war will not be won on the ground alone unless we are prepared to use overwhelming force. I agree with the author this is a war that will be won on the validation of ideologies.

The author’s opinion is Iraq and Afghanistan were only battles in the bigger War On Terror. If we continue to fight a war of attrition, we run the risk of loosing the war completely. This is a war we can’t afford to lose. I agree with the author if there are no compelling reasons for our continued strategic presence in the region, we should convincingly kick butt and get out. If there is and the danger is so grave, this must be shared with the American people. We must be united and not divided. To do otherwise sends the wrong message to our enemy that will exploit this weakness. As President Bush has said, we are a tolerant people but once aroused, we are a fierce adversary.

I believe the threat we face is grave and does present a clear and imminent strategic danger both at home and abroad by nuclear and bio-chem weapons. I will leave the bio-chem threat for another time. John Loftus describes a nuclear conspiracy involving Iraq, Libya, and N. Korea that has received scant coverage in the media and is yet un-refuted. The extent of Dr. Kahn’s of Pakistan nuclear black market is now only being unraveled. It is clear the current monitoring mechanisms of nuclear non-proliferation treaties are now obsolete. The IAEA had no clue based on the statements of the IAEA’s director made in Israel last week. Some have said this was tantamount to giving the diplomatic “green light” to the Israelis to take out Iran’s nuclear program if it becomes necessary, just like they did in Iraq in the early 80’s.

Dr. Kahn’s research makes it possible to enrich low-enriched uranium (LEU) uranium to weapons grade without needing the high-enriched uranium (HEU) or plutonium from one of the world’s known stockpiles to construct a nuclear device. This is the conspiracy John Loftus is alleging. Loftus believes they were only months away from a nuclear device. Loftus mentioned an intercept from N. Korea indicating the N. Koreans were “shitting bricks” [my term] when it became apparent the US was going into Iraq. The Koreans knew the US would find Saddam’s documents evidencing this relationship. This would also explain Col. Gaddhafi’s sudden case of religion, spilling his guts, and laying bare his nuclear facilities that far exceeded the IAEA’s knowledge.

This was a joint venture with the actual production taking place in Gaddhafi’s tunnels using Iraqi scientists and techs. Remember centrifuges were found and recovered in Libya. These centrifuges were built in Malaysia with design specs of Dr. Kahn with German metallurgy technology. These were slipped into Libya under the noses of both the world and the IAEA’s. And no, Hussein was not trying to get his hands on “yellow cake” from Niger – Not! The Senate’s own Intel Committee has confirmed it was, no other than, “Iraqi Bob,” who made the contact in Niger. President Bush DID NOT LIE! Ambassador Joe Wilson just didn’t catch the significance before he went public.

See discussion thread at:

http://hspig.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=979

How novel of a concept. Don’t build your nukes where everyone would expect to find them. Bluff and give the impression you do have WMD to stall, all the while your scientists were feverishly working to finish your nuke in Libya! Saddam’s only mistake was the US called his bluff before his nuke was finished. This would explain Col Gaddhafi’s sudden illness and N. Korea’s latest round of saber rattling when their hard cash source supply dried up. The strategic consequences of an Islamic nuke under the control of radical Islamic extremists are unimaginable. The world owes the US a profound word of thanks. And our allies the French can take their exclusive oil contracts granted by Saddam and shove it. And the UN can rot in their riches secured by diverting money for food from the Iraqi people in their con game, the UN administered Oil for Food Program.

There are two more potential Islamic nukes on the horizon. The Iranian theocracy is on the verge of having nuclear capability. There are estimates they will achieve this capability by early 2005. The other is Pakistan that by all accounts does have nuclear capability where there are radical Islamic extremist now moving to take control of the government. There is a time portal now open to change this eventuality that will close soon.

I will leave Pakistan for a later time. The people of Iran are ripe for a revolution. The radical Islamic extremist theocracy after gaining power encouraged all faithful Iranians to have little Iranians. Unfortunately the little Iranians have now grown up and are restless bunch as having been called, “The Joyless Generation.” They are not content with life, as it now exists under the Islamic regime. The regime is now a minority and is becoming old and outnumbered by the growing Joyless Generation. Since the last Iranian freedom movement by this generation, Internet blogging has matured. Many Iranians are now blogging, much like Zeyad, the brave Iraqi patriot and dentist, who has been reporting (blogging) from Iraq (http://healingiraq.blogspot.com). Zeyad and others are today’s true foreign correspondents, reporting the news of the day that is often not covered by our media.

These blogs are more objective and provide a much more accurate portrayal of the real events occurring in these countries. These often counter the doom and gloom of our media. The important difference is Zeyad and others are reporting the news without having to support the overhead. A new medium is now emerging which communicates the news transparently across international borders. Bloggers are not constrained or subjected to the political influences of the editorial and media boardrooms. Our media has slip into a world of “infotainment” for the sake of ratings and circulation. The saying, “If it bleeds, it leads,” is now truer than it ever was. The media actively panders for audiences with what passes as news nowadays. This by its very nature is misleading, less objective and distorts reality. This sensationalism/hype by its very nature lacks proportion and perspective.

The bloggers of the world are a force to be reckoned with. They can ensure the free flow of information. Bloggers don’t have to pander for audiences. Audiences are free to choose information providers based on value and accuracy of content. The Iranian regime now in power will implode in the light of the free world. The bloggers of the world can focus the world’s attention on this despotic regime before they achieve nuclear capability. This is also the case with other repressive and despotic regimes that seek nuclear weapons.

Again we will not win the War On Terror while there is a continuing supply of recruits to replace those we eliminate. We can’t fight a war of attrition unless we use overwhelming force to knock out the enemy all at once. This is a war of ideals and we must change our strategy accordingly. We must shut down the terrorist production factories. These are the fundamental schools the Saudis and others have tolerated to remain in power. In the Saudis’ case this is now coming back to haunt them. These schools, program children at a very early age to hate our culture and to adopt without question the ideology of radical Islamic extremism.

Why are many of the transnational terrorists who reside in the “swamp” not the stereotypical downtrodden refugees as often portrayed in the media? Who are these terrorists who ally with one another when convenient to attack the Great Satan and Zionists who of course are the root of all evil and wrongs Islam has suffered since the fall of the Islamic Empire? Many have studied at our best schools and have become doctors, engineers, computer programmers, and other highly trained professionals who have experienced the best the west has to offer. Why are we seen as such a threat? They have been programmed by these schools into the cult of radical Islamic extremism whose bounds are very powerful and culturally unifying. Researchers have found self-esteem, sense of self, and other important factors in the formation of human personality are largely established by the time of eight years. If this is true if we turned off the tap today, we still have another generation before the well runs dry. Yes, this is a war of culture and ideology.

Our “ACE IN THE HOLE” is Islamic women who are nothing more than chattel of men in this radical Islamic extremist world. Young girls were burned to death because the Saudi religious police prevented them from escaping a burning building, because they were not veiled! A more reasoned approach is to appeal to the maternal instincts these women. They have been kept in the dark for centuries without basic human rights and the respect that women of enlightened cultures were given years ago. They have been denied these rights by the male dominated ruling theocratic hegemonies.

These women have not received the degree of indoctrination as have the young intransigent “hot heads.” They are more amenable to be persuaded by the TRUTH. If they realize in the end, their sons will continue to die for a failed cause, the maternal bound will prevail and they will put a stop to this madness. Just like the control rods of a nuclear reactor when inserted into the core can moderate the critical mass that is now out of control.

The cultures of the world that have undergone religious reformation and/or cultural enlightenment will prevail though there may be many losses. Those who have experienced freedom will overpower any repressive culture that seeks to constrain the free will of man. The radical Islamic extremists believe there is a need for Devine government to control man, as he will only do evil if given free will. This is a failed ideology. This region of the world was the cradle of modern mathematics, science, medicine, and the arts. Where are they now? What was the cause of this stagnation? I suggest, it is the recognition and acceptance of the free will of man to CHOOSE to do good or evil. The power of this universal TRUTH is unending.

In terms of today, Dr. Phil always asks, “How’s that workin for ya?” The answer is not very well. This struggle has continued for many centuries and yet the radical Islamic extremists have remained as they were in the 12th and 13th Centuries of the old Islamic Empire. Once man has taken the bit of freedom in his mouth, there is no turning back. The Internet and blogging is interconnecting the world. The free flow of information is becoming transparent to international borders. The collective consciousness of the world is growing together at an ever-increasing exponential rate. This is the beginning of collective cognitive thought. This is much like the cellular development of the human brain as synaptic connections and pathways form which give rise to consciousness, and ultimately sentient thought and existence.

These are the stories the American public deserves to hear and not the petty barbs and retorts of the presidential election. The news media has abdicated its role and journalistic responsibility given it by the 1st Amendment. The news media as we know it may no longer be relevant as the provider of our news. Our cherished 1st Amendment right should not be twisted to justify the interests of media conglomerates.

This is a right given by a free people to the press as a fundamental check on the abuse of power by those who WE CHOOSE to govern. With a strong and unbiased free press we will not suffer the tyranny of fanatics who rule by fear, torture, genocide, deceit, and perversion of culture and religion to remain in power, like the people of Iraq we have just liberated. Once the “truth” is told, the power of the “great lie” to control evaporates.

Gee, this is profound.

Ron Wright, Moderator
Hspig Forum’s Site
www.hspig.org

PS: thx to TREK for listening to my rants and helping to formulate this piece.
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Ron Wright,

Posted by: Ron Wrght

I think the BBC does a disservice with this line:

"After winning parliamentary elections in February . . ."

Remember, the hardliners only won becuase they ruled about 1300 moderate candidates as ineligible. The election outcome was predicatable as Saddam's last impressive showing . . .

DWC, you're exactly right. The BBC does seem to lend credibility to the current regime in Iran.

Now for the question: is this what we want for America? Enforced "morality"? I certainly don't and I don't know anybody of any political persuasion that does.

In another thread Vince opines that this enforced morality is precisely what conservatives want. Perhaps that the basic disconnect. Is it possible that conservatives are that completely mis understood?
Finally, I have to ask a theological question: Wouldn't God (or Allah) be more please with people who behave well because they chose to instead of being forced to? Wouldn't our love of God be more sure, more true, more valid if that love was based on a real choice?

what choice to the citizens of these Islamic dictatorships really have? Is such brutal enforcement really an effort to please God? or is it perhaps simply an excuse to take, keep and abuse power over others?

Skip,

You speak as a true American Patriot. And yes, if you read my thread, that's the point. The American People are much smarter than the left seems to believe or give credit for.

I give the American People credit to understand the distortion the our left of center media gives to the news of the day for their own sef-interested purposes.

This is where the bloggers of the world can help and particularly in Iran where time is running out with a nuke about to be born to provide information that is not coming from our media.

This information much be shared with the American People so they can understand what we are really facing. And I can say almost catagorically is not covered by our media.

I have my suspicions too of Mr. Ashcroft and conservativism running amock. But we are a free people and with open debate, religous and thought police are not on the horizon.

But if we become too complacent, we do run the risk of loosing these fundamental freedoms that we have fought so hard to achieve.

Ron

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