May 06, 2004
Call to Boycott Iran over Nukes
From the
AFP via
The Australian :
Policy makers in the US have accused Iran of "deception" in pursuing a nuclear weapons programme and systematically trying to hide it.
Despite Iran's assurances to the contrary to the International Atomic Energy Agency, the US House of Representatives said "It is abundantly clear that Iran remains committed to a nuclear weapons program.".
It called on Europe, Japan and Russia to break off trade and energy ties with Iran until Tehran ends its nuclear ambitions.
A resolution passed by the House said that once Iran's uranium enrichment facilities are operational, it will have sufficient capacity to produce enough nuclear material for 25 to 40 nuclear weapons a year.
"Iran has engaged in a systematic campaign of deception and manipulation to hide its true intentions and keep its large-scale nuclear efforts a secret," said Republican Representative Dan Burton of Indiana.
Posted by Alan Brain at May 6, 2004 10:15 PM
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NEW PROTOCOL
The time has come for a revision of the MAD doctrine, that being that any use of a nuclear weapon gives free license by any other responsible nuclear power to annihilate the entire population, all living things, of the aggressor nation with neutron weapons. Neutron weapons leave the cities and infrastructure of the aggressor nation intact.
All surviving property of the aggressor nation would then be given as compensation to the victim nation.
Pre-emptive attack would become a recognized means of preventing a nuclear war under a double circumstance: evidence of attempting to build nuclear weapons, and a stated desire to aggress using those weapons when they are obtained.
This pre-emptive attack could use nuclear weapons, but only against nuclear weapons targets that could not be attacked with conventional weapons, and with respect to minimizing the loss of civilian life.
Posted by: anonymous at May 6, 2004 10:55 PM
Fortunately for us, the Israelis can be counted upon to blow up any production facility the Iranian's build, just before it comes online.
This will of course result in cries of outrage from the usual sources here in the US.
Sometimes I wonder how our species survived this long.
Oh wait, I remember....
Until recently, stupid people died off before they could reproduce.
Posted by: eric at May 6, 2004 11:01 PM
Remember Eric,
Short smart rich people marry tall beautiful dumb ones. That's how they survived.
Posted by: Jim Bosso at May 7, 2004 12:27 PM
"Fortunately for us, the Israelis can be counted upon to blow up any production facility the Iranian’s build, just before it comes online."
which explains why they havent for over a decade?
Posted by: duke at May 7, 2004 01:29 PM
"Neutron weapons" in the context described above, are a myth.
Any nuclear reaction that achieved super-criticality (ignition) will produce blast effect, thermal pulse, and radiation effect, both primary and secondary. You can alter the relative balance between the three, but you can't eliminate any of them.
So terrorists light off a small one in an American city, the trace components match core fuel manufactured in Iran, and the US responds by burning Tehran.
You have your pound of flesh, and you used a configuration that minimizes radiation. Given the distance from Tehran and Khorramshar, the oil wells are production infrastructure is reasonably intact.
Are you comfortable killing that many people, the majority of whom hate your enemy at the top level of Iranian government just as much as you do?
What about the rest of the world? You have roughly a quarter of the earth's oil in Iran, Saudi, and Iraq, how easy are the people in those countries going to make it for you to come in and get it after you've laid waste to a major Muslim capitol?
Add to that the European nations that will refuse to trade with you afterwards, potentially including Russia, China, even Indai. Is the pound of flesh worth all that too?
Before you try to answer, understand that in certain circumstances I would give the order that turned Tehran into a smoking hole, with full foreknowlege of all the possible consequences. Those circumstances do not yet exist, nor are they likely to.
Save the processing time necessary to add it all up. There's an easier way.
If Iran's centrifuges were capable of spinning up enough core fuel to activate Saddam's fully designed and machined nuclear weapons, before November, then Bush wouldn't be ignoring their flapping gums (not to mention financial and military contributions to our sworn enemy Al Qaeda) on a weekly basis, he'd be setting up to move in there in force tomorrow.
Iran's government has to be replaced, that much is obvious. It will happen in due time.
Overreaction to something that hasn't even happened yet is counter-productive.
Posted by: jeffers at May 7, 2004 01:45 PM
The suggested protocol was not designed with Iran in mind, it is based on similar reckoning to existing international protocols. Such protocols, unlike MAD, which is a theory, not an actual protocol, are based on the agreement of the Security Council.
Right now, some kind of protocol exists. For proof of this, when India and Pakistan both became nuclear and were dangerously close to war, Asst. Sec'ry of State Richard Armitage was dispached to the region. He spoke to Pakistan first, then without anyone interfering with his plane, he flew directly to India through the most dangerous airspace in the world. Both sides IMMEDIATELY ceased hostilities.
A neutron bomb detonates in an airburst high above its target, with negligable blast effects on the ground, but with a massive bombardment of high-speed neutrons killing all life below. Only a tiny area where any pieces of surviving bomb casing fall become strongly radioactive. Residual enhanced radiation has a short half-life in the target area.
Negligable fallout results, as no matter is blown up into the air. Buildings survive and there are minimal heat effects.
Posted by: anonymous at May 7, 2004 08:35 PM
I suspect that other readers know more about these matter than I do, but I do recall, I hope correctly recally, a couple of relevant ideas. First, Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) was primarily a doctrine for potential nuclear war with the Soviet Union. The main idea of MAD was to prevent a nuclear war. I am by no means expert enough in these ideas to critique it, but my impression is that the ideas behind the MAD doctrine fit most comfortably in the context of nuclear superpowers which can annihilate one another. Second, I seem to recall that the neutron bomb was designed primarily as an anti-tank weapon. Recall that during much of the Cold War the Warsaw Pact powers had many more tanks in Europe than did NATO. I know that the neutron bomb post-dated MAD by something like ten years.
Posted by: Average Joe at May 9, 2004 09:35 PM
I read a comment in which the Russians had described the Neutron bomb as the ultimate capitalistic weapon, one that killed life but preserved material non-living things like buildings.
Posted by: Jim Bosso at May 10, 2004 11:09 AM
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