Fox news started calling them homicide bombers awhile ago, to more accurately portray the bomber's goal of killing as many as possible.

Surely the aim (mission) of any/ every bomber is to kill people. Therefore they are guilty of homicidal intent. IE the unlawful killing of a human being.

However, the continuing trend of self destruction (Suicide), amongst the homicidal bombers is a distinct and separate way of achieving the aim. I would therefore advocate the use of the expression "Suicide Bomber" as being an accurate
description.

My soldiers have an even more accurate descriptions for the premature suicide bomber
"GOOD ONE" 0r "OWN GOAL". The best own goals are scored during collective training.

I prefer "person full of blind anti-Semitic rage". Why give them credit for letting someone else do their thinking?

According to this source, the term "homicide bombing" was first used by Ari Fleischer on April 12, 2002.

http://www.wordspy.com/words/homicidebombing.asp

It's not as new as Alan thinks it is.

An F-16 pilot is a homocide bomber. Anyone bombing anyone else is trying to kill.

The "suicide" part is what makes a suicide bomber different from a regular bomber.

I generally like FoxNews, but the whole "homicide bomber" thing has been grating on my nerves since March.

Yeah, 'homicide bomber' came out of the administration some time ago, but it never caught on outside of the most neo of neocons (hence its use Fox). I think most of the world has fogotten that particular ad campaign; it isn't really necessary to demonize people that are already hated...

By the way, Ubique - 'own goal' - I really like that one :-)

Gus3,

Because there are suicide/homicide bombers in many places. Some of them have nothing to do with Israel. The Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, for example.

I tend to think that "homicide bomber" is redundant, and that a "suicide bomber" is simply a subset of "bomber". Someone, I feel, must have already made this point.

Nothing is as new as I think it is. Including Ari Fleischer.

Fox has used this term for a while. The most ridiculous instance was a few months back, when a suicide bomber blew himself up in Iraq but failed to kill anyone else (d'oh!). Fox reported this as a homicide bombing, and reported that 2 people had died. The creation of this phantom death meant their editorial policy could remain intact. Hurrah for journalism.

A person who straps explosives on with the intent of going somewhere to kill himself/herself is not a suicide bomber or a suicide bomber. IT is a MURDERER. Period.

A sad and myopic murderer, but nothing more than a murderer.

However, the continuing trend of self destruction (Suicide), amongst the homicidal bombers is a distinct and separate way of achieving the aim. I would therefore advocate the use of the expression "Suicide Bomber" as being an accurate
description.

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Posted by: Ubique at January 14, 2004 08:04 AM
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What is the goal? Self destruction? Or the death of others?

These bombers are NOT the present day version of the Budhist Monks who practiced self-immolation in Vietnam.

Their GOAL is civilian death and casualties.

Means motive and opportunity = homicide, or at least a "homicidal warcrime"

But, you don't like the term "homicide bomber"? The suicide part is for propaganda purposes.

How about Terrorist Bomber?

What just a minute, could this all be a simple misundrstanding?

Maybe what Fox said wasn't Homicide Bomber at all but

Hammas-side Bomber? ;-)

Personally, I was thinking of the term "Darwinistic bomber."

It seems to me that the terrorists are attempting to increase the collective intelligence of the genepool of their populations by eliminating the unfittest.

Eventually the collective intelligence of their faction will achieve such a high average that they will seek peace.

According to ABC TV's Talking Headette late nite, the woman "preferred martyrdom".

Theodopoulos Phercydes I said it elsewhere, and have been saying it since I've had a chance to say it - The business about Martyrdom is a gross misuse of the term. It is in no wise anything but suicide, and if he/she kills someone in the process, it is murder, or murder/suicide.

Did I read that right? Did murdoc compare an F16 Pilot to a (insert whatever doesn't offend you for chrissakes) bomber?

And I'm the ONLY one who noticed or finds that repulsive and offensive?

This is not the blog I thought it was.

I did not compare an F16 pilot to a suicide/homicide bomber. I CONTRASTED an F16 pilot to a homicide bomber, as referred to by FoxNews.

Big difference.

The F16 pilot is a bomber, and his mission is to destroy. Often the targets of his destruction are or include people. He doesn't kamikaze his plane into the building or tank or bridge. He drops a bomb on it. He kills without killing himself. That is what I mean by saying that an F16 pilot is a homicide bomber. (NOT a homicide bomber as described by FoxNews.)

The person with explosives strapped to their body, or who flies a plane or other vehicle loaded with fuel and/or bombs into a target such as an aircraft carrier, skyscraper, or sidewalk cafe. He kills and kills himself in the process. That makes him a suicide bomber. (As described by FoxNews.)

If you check out my site you will see that I fully support our men and the mission they are on.

Yes, it was an invention of George Bush. And, like the biased robots they are, FOX and Murdoch's other outlets use the term regularly; among American news outlets their acceptance of the politically correct term is excusive.

"Homicide bomber" has become a joke, as the same people who spent the entire span of Clinton's administration condemning Democrats for political correctness have become just as sensitive to their own list of 'unpleasant' terms.

Unlike "inheritance tax" (since when are the dead taxable, anyway?) and "racial profiling" (instead of "racism"), the term "homicide bomber" has gained virtually no acceptance from the mainstream, while becoming a favorite utility of those who satirize and belittle the administration.

The term "freedom fries" is rumored to be quite jealous.

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