Maybe the Saudi amnesty offer is good for something. Then again, everything with a dash of salt. If the aQ heads in Iran have been brewing up a plan, maybe he's a dupe; primed and ready to follow with all sorts of disinformation.

If I am reading this correct, this is the third Al-Qaeda guy to accept the offer. Maybe this is working after all?

Does anybody know what happens to people who accept the amnesty? Do they walk free? Are the somehow prevented from further terror activities?

Here's an article with some info about the amnesty, but it doesn't answer exactly what's at stake.

http://www.politinfo.com/articles/article_2004_07_13_2353.html

They are still subject to prosecution, but only if investigation finds them having participated in violence.

Death penalty from the state is off the table, but if the family of the victims feels its still necessary under sharia, they can carry it out (does this mean Paul Johson's family can have the remaining suspects in his murder killed?)

Then again, half of these statemnets are coming from Nayef, so you know what they are worth. Nonetheless, I'm curious to see how hard next week's crackdown is going to be once the amnesty ends. Wiffle ball comes to mind. might sting a little, but nothing's breaking.

I believe under Sharia if a death penalty is granted to a family it is then to be carried out at the whim/ability of the victims family. Same as under sharia if a woman is guilty of breaking sharia marriage laws she must be killed by her brother or father, or husband if she is already married. I highly doubt the american victims family would get far carrying out a sharia death warrent in islamic lands.

As for this nutcase that we saw on tape so long ago, id say something fishy and be prepared for some serrious disinformation or some big speeches comming up about future attacks.

The truce that aQ offered Europe ends in 2 days. This guy may be sent to give bad info about where to watch out for an attack. Then when the EU has their attention diverted...

I understand the cynicism posted here.

Still this seems to be a bird in the hand.

Mark,

That's my concern. I'm very glad this guy surrendered. But I'm concerned about a) do we get access to him for questioning and b) what happens to him after the fact. He should be a GREAT source of info about planned attacks.

Got another.

"Kurdish security forces have captured 15 militants in northern Iraq, including one man believed to be a senior leader of a local Al Qaeda-linked group, an official in a pro-American Kurdish party said Tuesday."

This from a Fox news story by way of Smash

http://www.lt-smash.us/archives/003069.html#003069

Well I for one am curious about how the loyal opposition will spin this.

Since the left has always insisted that the fight against terror should have started in SA, what say they now?

As to the roll up of the terrorists by the Kurds, this is still more good news.

So the new interim government arrests more than 500 career criminals, a prominent AQ guy surrenders in SA. The kurds round up a bunch of thugs, the polls in Afganistan look very positive. Boy oh boy, this is a bad day for the Kerry Camp.

skip He surrendered in TEHRAN, and was flown to SA.

He has no leg to stand on, either...

"So the new interim government arrests more than 500 career criminals, a prominent AQ guy surrenders in SA. The kurds round up a bunch of thugs, the polls in Afganistan look very positive. Boy oh boy, this is a bad day for the Kerry Camp."

Please ... The difference between Bush and Kerry in the war on terror is pretty damn slim. I don't see voters caring much about any of this news. Still, the Al Queda surrender looks like a good thing. Maybe you guys shouldn't have been so cynical when the amnesty was announced.

rdelephant

Kerry and Bush may be close on the GWOT which I doubt. But the advisors Kerry would "hire" would more than likely be a gulf apart, and their lies the problem. Kerry doesn't have the backbone to stand up to dissent in his own party so his only choice is appeasement to the voices of the far left. That ain't good.

chads

Why do you people think that Kerry doesn't have backbone ??? The guy is a war hero, with three purple hearts if I recall correctly.

I tell ya... I hate to keep draggin' this stuff up!

"Please … The difference between Bush and Kerry in the war on terror is pretty damn slim."


PUHLEEEAZE! Kerry has flooped so many times, he's prolly got vertigo by now.

The italicized portion Posted by: rdelephant at July 13, 2004 08:00 PM


"Why do you people think that Kerry doesn’t have backbone ??? The guy is a war hero, with three purple hearts if I recall correctly."

AGAIN. LOL. A real WarHero. I will have NO man who calls me a Monster, and accuses me and MY Brothers (who can't speak for themselves BTW) of WarCrimes (Perjuring himself along the way) as MY President as long as I can still draw a breath.

You are UNINFORMED. Do some Googling. It might help your comprehension.

The italicized portion Posted by: rdelephant at July 13, 2004 08:26 PM

http://www.sonshi.com/sun13.html

What enables the enlightened rulers and good generals to conquer the enemy at every move and achieve extraordinary success is foreknowledge. ?

Foreknowledge cannot be elicited from ghosts and spirits;

it cannot be inferred from comparison of previous events, or from the calculations of the heavens, but must be obtained from people who have knowledge of the enemy's situation.

Therefore there are five kinds of spies used:
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For dead spies we use agents to spread misinformation to the enemy.

I am well aware of Kerry's post-war criticisms of the war. I just don't see what this has to do with him having backbone. I don't even see what it has to do with his decoration for his war service ... he is still a war hero, even if you disgaree with the stand he took when he returned.

"…he is still a war hero, even if you disgaree with the stand he took when he returned."


I wouldn't care if he earned the Medal Of Honor! I not only disagree with 'the stand he took', HE LIED UNDER OATH. HE PERJURED HIMSELF. He still stands on his testimony, which has not only been proven false, it has also been proven (by himself no less) that HE KNEW he was lying when he lied!
He now says he KNEW 'it was over the top', but that is simply KerrySpeak in action - the 'SutbleNuance' - which REALLY means 'I LIED" but I don't want to say that, because if I say that it means I LIED UNDER OATH.

Hell, I thought you were intelligent! You're to the point now you don't even make sense. Don't cling to the mistaken belief that just because he risked his life to save a fellow soldier, that makes everything else that he does or says 'okay'. It doesn't. All that act of charity and sacrifice earned him was a little cachet when it came time to diss and diss badly on me and my brothers and those who were still serving in Vietnam. Those folks got the best of homecomings because of his StellarPerformance.

And he said those things for what reason? Remind me, will ya?

The italicized portion Posted by: rdelephant at July 14, 2004 06:06 PM

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