How about confiscating or destroying every pickup truck in the territories? If you cant play nice with your toys...

I don't know why, but when I first read the headline, I thought of Monty Python.

Lets just hope the PA isnt working on the funniest joke in the world.

How hard can it be to spot a White Toyota pickup???

Is it driven by 6 yr olds?

no, the 6 year olds are paid $20 to strap a bomb on by the fat, dwarf billionaire.

It's a variant on the technicals, effective in the Sino-Afghan war and re-introduced in Iraq recently.

Counterbattery radar can pin the firing location down in seconds, perhaps before it lands, but if the driver has one foot on the gas and another on the clutch, he can be out of the blast radius of responding artillery before it lands too.

What are you going to do then?

(That's a rhetorical question. If you have a good answer, you probably ought to keep it to yourself. Points off for tech the Israelis don't actually have yet.)

"What are you going to do then?"
Posted by jeffers at March 29, 2004 10:25 PM

That's just too easy to answer....post snipers on the high ground and take out anyone driving any type of vehicle. Death seems to cause these murderers to focus extremely well, especially when it's their own. After 20 or 30 dead driver's they'd be more than happy to walk through the check points to commit suicide. Anything for a photo op by CNN.

Jeffers

"That’s a rhetorical question. If you have a good answer, you probably ought to keep it to yourself."

Since this doesn't qualify as a good answer...

Load the pickup with Palestinian children and an embedded CNN photographer.

It makes 'm harder to spot, but it also makes it harder to fire effectively.

They could ban pickups with in mortar range, but really there is not much you can do other then have patrols waiting along the truck's escape route and alert them to it's description.

Jeffers I’m going to post this and you can discount it or not. Your choice. I was a helo jock in the late great unpleasantness in Vietnam. You may recall it from your reading.
I was in an Army Firebase one night and when we were granted our nightly visit from the Mortar Fairy, called Freedom Fighters by our unbiased Press Corps! The base was using a then new fire control radar. This little wonder calculated the ballistic route and launch point, gave a fire solution and pinpointed the launch location. The Cannon Cockers then fired a perfect ”Battery Three” into the launch point. BOOM! Dead Bad Guys!
This was all accomplished BEFORE the incoming round hit the ground. In fact mathematically, it can be done as the incoming round reaches the apex of its flight!
Since the “kill radius” of a 105 round is approximately 400 hundred yards, A “fast moving” pickup (Yes, children that IS an Oxymoron!) will not be out of the range of anything when the incoming hit them. Innocent civilians, what the hell are THEY, will get it in the neck but that is not our concern. A few of them explode with Saddam not sending them a check and they will get right pissed at Chairman Arafat! The PA will realize this is yet ANOTHER futile exercise staged for CNN.

Seawolf 15,
A few thoughts. Mortar locating radars are quite efficient little beasts. (I query your figures on the 105 Round, I wish we had a 105 HE PD that had a lethal burst radius of 400 metres). There are problems in using Indirect fire weapons for Counter Battery fire in a non conventional battle.

Our PAL member of the goat chasing Martyrs Brigade, slaps his 82mm mortar in the back of his Ute....parks carefully between The Mosque, The maternity hospital and the Local Orphanage. Slaps out three quick rounds, before putting pedal to the metal. (Total time elapsed 15 seconds). Radar picks up first round, calculates Firing point, passes data to guns, guns laid onto target say 25 seconds. Guns fire ToF say 25 seconds. The ute is now away and gone. The shells are incoming and the Martyrs Bde PR man is already on the phone to CNN and The BBC.

Seawolf 15,
A few thoughts. Mortar locating radars are quite efficient little beasts. (I query your figures on the 105 Round, I wish we had a 105 HE PD that had a lethal burst radius of 400 metres). There are problems in using Indirect fire weapons for Counter Battery fire in a non conventional battle.

Our PAL member of the goat chasing Martyrs Brigade, slaps his 82mm mortar in the back of his Ute....parks carefully between The Mosque, The maternity hospital and the Local Orphanage. Slaps out three quick rounds, before putting pedal to the metal. (Total time elapsed 15 seconds). Radar picks up first round, calculates Firing point, passes data to guns, guns laid onto target say 25 seconds. Guns fire ToF say 25 seconds. The ute is now away and gone. The shells are incoming and the Martyrs Bde PR man is already on the phone to CNN and The BBC.

Sounds like we need to embargo Doge Ram SRT-10's from reaching Palestine. ;-)

I'm waiting for the inevitable result of this strategy - Pal driver floors it too soon, and the mortar flips over on its side as a result of the sudden jerk (no pun intended), with the result being blamed on Israeli counter-mortar fire or (if only the guys in the pickup buy it) a "work accident."

-BF

I believe you, Seawolf. Loading and aiming account for the critical period of time. If you can commit assets beforehand, you could get effective fire on target fast enough to make it at least a horserace.

Not the way I'd see it done in Gaza, but then it's not like the correlation between sustained exposure to altitude induced hypoxia and critical thinking is a mystery to modern science any longer, is it?

"....between The Mosque, The maternity hospital and the Local Orphanage."

Hot stock tip: magnetic crescents. Get in before it takes off.

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