This is how it's supposed to be. Not, 'One US Troop Killed, Two Injured. Assailants Escape'.

I think the Israelis are ready for their own 'Operation Peninsula Strike'. Especially after watching them interview that moron Palestinian (that happens to be a US citizen) on Fox News this morning. Talk about a dumb ass that won't face facts....

When's the election in IRAN? I'm kinda waitin' for that rock to roll. AraFATtheRAT needs a ROLL with a small ROCK. Things don't go well in the 'hood, he's liable to get his tail caught under someone's boot. A Hellfire oughta take the tail off at about the neck.

JeffB, I saw that moron pali on the news last night as well, sounds like an open invitation for 'operation
fumigate'

Sure sounds like we came to the right Peninsula. Besides killing a whole bunch I hope we capture some. I'd love to hear the tale of who is organizing, directing and financing them, and what groups they're working with. We should almost thank these people for revealing themselves. If they were smart they would lay low now, and organize to start a long-term campaign against the new government in a year or two. Right now, all they're doing (besides taking themselves out of the game) is helping us show we're in charge.

Locoisimo! Shhhhhhhhhh....don't wake them up.

Bubba said, "I saw that moron pali on the news last night as well, sounds like an open invitation for 'operation
fumigate'"

It's coming......I can smelll it in the air. It's gonna be big. Arafatbastard ought to be the first one targeted.....just to make a point.

Instead of sending Arafatbastard money, let's send him U-Hauls.......so they can move somewhere they're wanted.
I don't know though.....they might have a hard time finding any fools that want to he 'neighbors' to the Palestinians. They don't come with very good references.

Jeff B - Do some sniffin' into Arafatbastard's recent past. He's been in bed with a couple a 'states', some of 'em no less the better for the stench involved. He's a freakin' pilgrim with no place to turn to, now that he's burned every freakin' bridge he was ever offered. That little puke was in bed with Islamic 'terrorists' in every port he's ever sailed his leaky dinghy into(excuse my danglin' particple). I say it's time to offer him a PDF that has a FAST leak in it, and drop him somewhere in the MED.

The militant Muslim idea that what they want can be gotten with force has got to be eradicated. The Israelis are hardly innocent in this, and, I feel, sometimes repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot, but nevertheless, this is not going to stop until someone defeats the other decisively.

And also, the worry of making Arafat a martyr is ridiculous. They have people NOW that want to martyr themselves.

And quite honestly, I may be in the minority here, but unless we're going to intervene to help Israel fight, we should stay the hell out of it, which includes stopping selling Israel all our military equipment. Israel's big enough to take care of itself.

OBTW, are you guys watching the birth pains of a new Iran being born. oh..MULLAHS...tick..tick...tick

johnny - Isn't there, like, an election in IRAN? Soon? Curious.

I'm not sure it will ever get to that point. Right now, it looks like things are degenerating fast. In 1999, people on motorcycles chased the student protestors and beat them with sticks. This time the protestors are punching the assailants and setting fire to their motorcycles. They are calling piublicly and LOUDLY to "hang Khameini, the traitor" an unprecendented action.

So for all the naysayers on Iraq, we may see a new Iran. The U.S. action in Iraq has emboldened a lot of people there. If we start seeing your average Iranian joe take to the streets; its gonna be katie bar the door. The average citizen is not going to tolerate a Tiannamen square type massacre there.

So this is what is annoying me so bad about all this WMD business. The civilized world will be reaping the benefits of this for years to come. I think a lot of good will come out of this. A lot of good already has.

I think that when the smoke clears and it's next year, all this WMD stuff, along with all the other anti Bush whining is going to prove little more than a minor irritant to W's reelection campaign, weighed against all the good he's been doing.
A decisive president like this is too good to lose after one term.
The gulf in electoral votes will be so much wider this time that all the hanging chads in the world won't even raise an eyebrow. He'll get another 4.

over the years, I have talked to alot of those Iranian "students. They like the american way, freed, rock music etc.
Just leave them alone, let them do their revolt. They will ask for help if they need it. It is kinda nice to see them taking action. And these mullahs know the spotlight is on them, so they have to be carefull as well, or they WILL get a boost out of Iran from a little help from the sudents friends.
If those mullahs start rounding up the movement and executing, then WE have to move in and avoid another saddam.

On the other front, Israel CAN take care of its self, They just need blessings.

johnnymozart

Why should we stop selling weaps to Isreal?

We sell to the Saudi's.

We sell to the Egyptians.

How's that going to be 'fair and balanced'?

devil's chewtoy,

I didn't mean to single out Israel. Personally, I think we should quit selling weapons technology to everyone, for a couple reasons. One, its OUR technology, and I think there is a certain tactical advantage lost by its proliferation and two, being viewed by the world as the arms dealer for the world doesn't help our coause when we we are advocating a moral position like the one in Iraq.

As for Israel, when the Israelis justifiably wipe out a carload of terrorists, who get blamed? Israel AND the US because we supplied the Hellfire missile that blew it up. No its not fair, but I think anything we can do to minimize that, we should do.

If the Israelis want some weapon or other military technology that we refuse to sell them, LOL, give Mossad and Aman a couple of months and Israel will be manufacturing their own.

Bubba,
There's one reason why we may need to intervene in Iran: some of those "students" are likely hard-core leftist radicals. I've got a hunch the reason why some of them keep suggesting here at CP and elsewhere that the U.S. should stay out is that they have no interest in a democracy or a republic. They're power-seekers pure and simple. That may be especially true of some expats.

Normally I'd say "so what?" because we can't police the whole world. The problem is they would be leftist radicals with two reactors and an advanced weapons program. They know that if we get in there, we're going to dismantle all that before we call an election and leave. Great outlook if you're a democrat, not so good if you're a foreign-based university-educated media-smart silk-blouse thug.

Hey Johnnymozart

I'd rather be hated around the world and be right than loved by the world and be wrong.

I see your point but what we sell the egyptians is really old tech. We also dont sell them much in the way of keys. So, what you get is hell of an expensive pile of junk.

It works, and it does get thepoint across that yes, we support these regimes. What they do with it is thier problem, not ours. Who the hell is blaming the Russians and the French for selling them thier weapon systems? What is so very embarassing for the Russians is how poorly thier weapon systems did as a match for ours.

Also, no need to bag on Isreali tech, they sell thier weap sys to us!

We never sell our best equipment. You may here that we sold 50 F-16's to Isreal or Poland, M1a1 tanks to so and so country.

1st off those planes dont have the state of the art weapons systems like we have. Its basically stock or old stuff. The countries can upgrade them thru their technology tree if they have it. But its still not as good as what we field.
The M1a1 that is sold over seas does not come equipped with the honeycombed formerly top secret armour. Its just pure steel.

Yes we sell weapons, but we dont sell weapons to nations that the UN puts embargos on unlike Russia and France. We have the common decency as a nation to know when bad people go bad and stop selling. You dont see M-16's or F-16's being used by these tyrant nations.....its Ak-47's and Mig's along with French landmines and Russian tanks.

Isnt France a signee of the anti landmine treaty? But yet America hasnt signed it...and its French landmines that are sold all over the world and not american? I think that shows you right their where america's moral respective is compared to the French. We can sell it but we choose not to. Where as french is not suppose to sell it but does it anyways.

Arafat needs to be killed

Good points all, especially joe. :)

Shock,

Can you give me some evidence regarding these so-called French landmines?

The report titled Conventional Arms Transfers to Developing Nations, 1993- 2000, examines U.S. weapons sales to regions of conflict.

International arms sales totaled nearly $36.9 billion in 2000, an increase of 8 percent. The U.S. was responsible for almost half the weapons sold, but was not the only major arms merchant. Russia was second with $7.7 billion in sales, then France with $4.1 billion, Germany with $1.1 billion, Britain with $600 million, China with $400 million and Italy with $100 million.

In preliminary research for the forthcoming Weapons at War: Weapons Sales to Regions of Conflict report, the Arms Trade Resource Center found that:

The United States had supplied arms or military technology to parties to 39 of the 42 of the active conflicts worldwide, more than 92%.

While in some cases the levels of U.S. arms and training were relatively modest, in well over one-third of the conflicts -- 18 of 42 -- the United States was a major supplier, providing anywhere from 10% to 90% of the arms imported by the government party to the dispute.

Drawing on statistics from the Pentagon's Defense Security Cooperation Agency on deliveries under the Foreign Military Sales and Commercial Sales programs during Fiscal Year 1999, the United States delivered roughly $6.8 billion in armaments to nations which violate the basic standards set out in the International Code of Conduct on Arms Sales.

BTW, it appears as if the number of dead needs to be lowered to seven.