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Iraq
May 13, 2003
Another Mass Grave Found

This brings the total of victims that were buried by the Saddam regime to about 15,000 - that's just the bodies found in all the mass graves.

The remains of 15,000 people killed by the regime of Saddam Hussein have been found in mass graves in central Iraq.

The graves were discovered last week in the central city of Hilla, site of ancient Babylon, the Iraqi National Congress (INC) said.

The bodies are thought to date back to the Shiite uprising that followed the US withdrawal from Iraq in 1991.

"In the last week, four sites have been discovered in Al-Hilla city alone, with approximately 15,000 bodies," said Entifadh Qanbar, a spokesman of the INC.

Full story at Sky News..

Posted By Michele Catalano at May 13, 2003 08:46 PM | TrackBack
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Pretty silly story actually. These could all easily be victims from the Iran Iraq war. It says they are over ten years old.

Posted by: David at May 13, 2003 08:53 PM

Sure, David, lots of Iran/Iraq war battles fought near Hilla. Check the map.

Posted by: Dr. Sardonicus at May 13, 2003 09:02 PM

They could be mass graves from either the war or indeed from the uprising in 1991. But death is penalty for treason and executions during wartime are not uncommon.
Saddam was brutal, but there a a slew of latin American mass graves with peopled by the unfortunate opponents of US backed dictators as well.

Posted by: Hanah at May 13, 2003 09:08 PM

Sardonicus, check your history. The US bombed Hilla severely during the 91 war. It was also the site of major armed uprisings during the Iran-iraq war, and during Gulf One.

Posted by: old vet at May 13, 2003 09:21 PM

Even Chomsky finally admitted that Pol Pot was a fiend, after acting as his lawyer for some time. Did he offer justifications for genocide? They had it coming? Is that your argument? I just want to be clear on this.

Posted by: Spawn at May 13, 2003 10:29 PM

I did this on the more recent post, so I might as well repeat it here - would someone do the math for me, please?

4400 DAYS/D = ? where D = number of graves discovered.

Karnak says - 666

Posted by: Dave Dube at May 14, 2003 09:46 AM

where is HOUSTON?
What about these children Houston? those left as orphans, and the ones killed. Why didn't you care then?
Furthermore Houston, of the 2000 civilians killed, how many were by the hand of saddam? why did he put humans as shields? why did he fire AA missiles up in the air in a city?
What goes up must come down, we know he never hit any aircraft.
Surely someone with a name like HOUSTON would understand the law of gravity.

Posted by: Bubba at May 14, 2003 10:08 AM

Mass grave stories are probalby the most inflammatory and often propaganda. Look how for years we argued the Katyn forest mass grave was at the hand of the Nazi's when in fact it was at the hand of our Soviet allies. Many of the mass graves in the Yugoslav conflict were other than original described as well. I have no doubt that Saddam killed civilians, but it is also evident, for any student of history, that there are going to be huge numbers of mass graves from the Iran Iraq war (when we supplied Iraq with help) as well as mass graves of casualties from Gulf War one.

"Even Chomsky finally admitted that Pol Pot was a fiend, after acting as his lawyer for some time."

Oh and spawn...you poor ignorant fool..I am a Cambodian and no friend of Chomsky, but you make yourself look like an idiot there, please reference a link saying chomsky was pol pot's lawyer. Pol Pot as you will recall received a lot of support from the US government through the 1980's AFTER he had committed the genocide.

Posted by: KDP at May 14, 2003 12:53 PM

KDP,
denial only goes so far.
The fact is, many more sites will be uncovered, it's part of digging up sites that are included in the WMD search.
In that search, we are finding bodies instead.

In the Ukraine, the USSR killed and starved 10 million Ukrainian, and behind that Iron curtain, who was to know, except those who escaped.
Now, after the curtain fell, the skulls are coming to the surface.
lets all deny it, and pretend it didn't happen.
I know better, I was the grandchild of a survivor, and also the grandchild of a survivor of one of hitlers work camps, plus, I'm a christian, so you can't even say it's a jew story.

I knew my grandfather before he died, after he got freedom, and got the hell out of that country.

One of the things he told me, was that the Jews were lucky sometimes, they got death quickly, where the Polish Christians had to work till they died, there was jews in work camps as well, so he didn't belittle them. He just said it from his experience. Saddam was another hitler.
try to see it that way. He also wanted to kill jews, he just never got the chance.
And he did try last gulf war.

Posted by: Bubba at May 14, 2003 04:02 PM

For opponents to the war against Iraq there is no choice but to deny reality. The mere thought that the US invasion might have been "a good thing" would rob them of their virtue and that, my friends, would be the most unspeakable evil of all.

Posted by: Theodopoulos Pherecydes at May 14, 2003 04:38 PM

Some people claim that even though the US has found massive graves in Iraq but no weapons of mass destruction, that the US was not justified to go to war. I disagree. The massive graves that were found just proves the regime itself was a weapon of mass destruction - to its own people no less.


Posted by: Gary Zielinski at May 17, 2003 01:21 AM

Just to let everyone know, for the past couple of days I've been doing mass research on the mass graves in Iraq for a story that the TV station I work for is doing. The reason that it is reported that the mass graves are from persecution by Saddam for the uprising in 1991 is because the locals knew about most of the mass graves and pointed them out to Marines once liberated. Also, papers, put up by Saddam, are being found in mosques stating the names and reasons why people 'disappeared'. It was not an unknown possibility to the iraqis to end up in a mass grave. They knew where they were and how to find them. Do a little research before you start ranting and raving about it being war casualities.

Posted by: BLL at June 25, 2003 08:52 AM
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