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April 24, 2003
Former Iraqi DPM Tariq Aziz is in US custody
Says FOX TV. Update: CNN has it as well: Aziz was 43 on the 55 wanted list. He is the only Christian in Saddam's inner circle. PBS profile of Aziz here. Posted By at April 24, 2003 04:51 PM | TrackBackI wonder if they will try him or just send him to Gitmo? Posted by: Del Simmons at April 24, 2003 04:54 PMTrial??? Gitmo??? How about a nice, slow walk down the center of Bagdad. You know, mingle with the people.... Posted by: Scott at April 24, 2003 04:55 PMI think first he will be, um, debriefed. Posted by: Alisa at April 24, 2003 05:00 PMDebriefed? not if he wears boxers! Posted by: billhedrick at April 24, 2003 05:02 PMAwww, darn...I'm gonna miss DON... Posted by: Zippy at April 24, 2003 05:05 PM"I wonder if they will try him or just send him to Gitmo?" Can't go to gitmo. Options: iraqi's try him (not likely u.s. choice); international court (most likly choice). Posted by: stephan at April 24, 2003 05:07 PMI hope he got his confession done when he last visited the Pope. Posted by: ElCapitanAmerica at April 24, 2003 05:08 PMHaving read up on some of the "debriefing" techniques used by a few of the coalition members i can safely say it does not matter if he wears Boxers Or Briefes to his "group chat", they will soon be around his ankles...or if a CIA jock gets ahold of him up around his ears. Squeeel! Then they can take him for his walk with his fellow citizens (good one scott). Posted by: Ronin at April 24, 2003 05:09 PMJust #43? I figured he'd be higher just on name recognition and notoriety alone... Posted by: Barry at April 24, 2003 05:09 PMOh great...now this jackass is going to stand in front of the cameras and swear blind that there have just never been any WMD's in Iraq, and this was all unjustified, etc. etc. Watch the NY Times swoon, and CNN report "this blow to the administrations credibility" in hushed and serious tones. I suspect that Clinton will be on television within 24 hours. Posted by: Phil Hornsey at April 24, 2003 05:10 PMI thought I read somewhere that Tarik may not have been involved in much of the "rough stuff" and that he might not be a candiate for the war crimes team because much of his work was done outside of the country. He was more of a matre di, and not part of the kitchen staff. Someone pointed out on MSNBC that the military drew up that list of cards, so obviously as a diplomat Tariq is on the bottom in terms of threat. It's not an Intel list.. Posted by: Ben Noah at April 24, 2003 05:14 PMTariq Aziz is complicated, and I expect he'll be given every opportunity to talk. Besides being the only Christian in Saddam's inner circle, his son Ziyad was imprisoned by Hussein in 2001. Also remember all the American movies and books found in his apartment. Aziz was privy to everything going on inside Iraq but also dealt with the rest of the world. A man will say anything when there's a gun pointed at his son's head, now's when we find out if he ever saw the truth or was instead consumed by delusion. Posted by: Joe Maller at April 24, 2003 05:14 PMPhil, I think it's certainly possible that Tariq is a true believer. Maybe he agreed with his son's imprisonment. I don't think we are going to get anything from him, Posted by: Trend at April 24, 2003 06:10 PMI think Sipowitz can get him to flip... Posted by: Capsu78 at April 24, 2003 06:15 PMAs best as I can tell, Saddam and Tariq are best buds. Perhaps Saddam paid and/or compelled Tariq to be his friend, but he was rather loyal nonetheless. I would think that Tariq would have been with Saddam in any meeting where they were laying out plans to bail out of Baghdad. The capture of Tariq raises the odds in my view that Saddam is still alive. Of course, this is all conjecture on my part. Maybe Saddam planned to bail without taking his buddy with him... Posted by: Mike at April 24, 2003 07:11 PMIt's not difficult to believe that Aziz and other Iraqis would be "true believers" in the Baath party and the Saddam personality cult. If you read Hanah Arendt's "The Origin of Totalitarianism" you'll see that this is possible. Thousands of devout Nazis and Communists went to their deaths still fervently believing in their leaders and even that their deaths were justified and necessary. Posted by: Miguel Centellas at April 24, 2003 07:15 PMI agree, Miguel. It almost seems to me that these people, including Saddam think they can ride this thing out, then resurface once the US has gone, to retake power and declare victory. Saddam is no military genious, but he is a genius at survival. I keep wondering, in the back of my mind, was this his "plan" all along? We all know the clock is ticking on how long the Iraqis are going to tolerate the foreigners on their soil. They've been free for 2 weeks, and already there are mobs telling the troups to go away. Posted by: Mike at April 24, 2003 07:24 PMI guess one has to have evidence to incriminate or prosecute someone. These days this is a line fast disappearing, since the development of the concentration camps on Gitmo. Just being sighted on the "bad guy" side is enough. Posted by: Sun at April 24, 2003 07:28 PMI read today that Aziz resigned in protest of his son's imprisonment, but his resignation was not accepted by Saddam, who needed someone who could speak to Westerners without sounding like a total nut case - Comical Ali would not do, here. So since 2001 Aziz has been a reluctant member of the regime. Maybe there's hope he will talk. Posted by: Tim at April 24, 2003 09:22 PMPost a comment
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