That's it... you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

Parking lot anyone? Grease spot? Glass factory?

Islam has got to get out of the business of government. It will never work to provide true freedom.

Oh my.

So ungrateful. So rude. How dare they!

That's right, Robert, let's NUKE 'EM!!!

well, it is a town of some 4 million people in the middle east. It would be expected that there would be a few thousand fundimentalists. But how does the nation as a whole feel?

I love the story of the marine doing the fist pound thing with the little kid. That's how I'm perceiving the Iraqis and their sentiments toward us.

Screw the adults, I only care about how the kiddos feel.

I'd bet that those same people went home and celebrated.

Celebrated their liberation, that is.

This is one of those cases where we have to grit our teeth and have the courage of our convictions. In every case where an "Islamic Republic" has been proclaimed, it has been either a group of radical fundies with guns, or someone trying to mobilize a group of radical fundies.

So long as we prevent a government from coming about by force, we will end up alright.

"But how does the nation as a whole feel?"

If they feel like every other nation in history with a foreign army on its soil, they want us out.

Good answer Jason, wrong question.

How does the rest of the population feel about an Islamic government? That's the important question here.

But do me a favor and try to project the probable results of a US pullout at this stage. Go ahead.

Sounds like one of the first laws we should enforce is "inciting to riot". Fallout would be bad, though, if sentence was more than having this type of mullah attending a different mosque - and not speaking - the next Friday.

I say, if we find Saddam, reinstall him. These Islamofascists clearly have no sense of any gratitude. Some of them clearly do not deserve their freedom. The only thing they are good at, is blaming everyone else for their own stupid behaviour. The world is better off without them.

Looks to me that those people had temporarily forgotten to hate America, but a little time with their "religious leaders" was enough to set them straight.

No, peop. This is the voice of Iran. For just a few of many things to consider:

*Iran, the largest Muslim theocracy, is right next door;
*it is a Shiite nation;
*the mullahs of Iran are terrified of democracy, and are fighting to kill it in their own country;
*they are now and have been financing the mullahs of Iraq;
*the mullah involved here spent the regime of Saddam in Iran;
*Iran sees a power vacuum in Iraq and a chance to fill it;
*they see US backed governments to the north and south of them, and want to stop this NOW.