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April 14, 2003
11 chemical-biological labs found near Karbala

CNN (TV) is reporting that 11 mobile chemical-biological labs were found near Karbala recently. CNN reporter Ryan Chilcote interviewed a General from the 101st Airborne Division who said that these labs were buried underground and marked for easy detection. In addition, these labs were located near a place where artillery shells and/or rockets were either made or stored.

Update: This is the official CNN story about the lab find.

KARBALA, Iraq (CNN) -- U.S. troops have found 11 mobile laboratories buried south of Baghdad that are capable of biological and chemical uses, a U.S. general said Monday.

There were no chemical or biological weapons with the containerized labs, which measure 20 feet square. But soldiers recovered "about 1,000 pounds" of documents from inside the labs, and the United States will examine those papers further, said Brig. Gen. Benjamin Freakly of the Army's 101st Airborne Division.

Update: Chilcote: Probe into mobile labs continues.

Update: Background information on the find, from Gannett News Service.

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another smoking cuban cigar huh? I figured the war would have to be wrapping down for the WMB crap to hit the fan (letting it hit fan during war would let cat outta bag, and they would be more apt to use them)...i sure as hell hope this is true.

Posted by: Willy at April 14, 2003 12:38 PM

These false positives are becoming depressing. I'm going to observe the 48-hour rule on this one.

I do wonder what "marked for easy detection" means, though.

Posted by: Spoons at April 14, 2003 12:38 PM

I'm going to sit this one out, as well. Too many false alarms. If it proves to be true, however, I don't know who I want to hear from the most - Hans Blix, or Scott Ritter.

I just decided - it's Scott Ritter. Blix may be an idiot, but Ritter is a pedophile. Beating up on his worthless a$$ will bring me much joy.

Posted by: Cowboy Bob at April 14, 2003 12:42 PM

I think these are labs for crank, angel dust and crystal meth. they are not intended for chemcial weapons.

Posted by: Don'tknow at April 14, 2003 12:43 PM

Are you sure this isn't breaking news from 12 years ago?

Posted by: Houston at April 14, 2003 12:43 PM

This has been posted before, I think.

Posted by: MaxDarkSide at April 14, 2003 12:44 PM

The words "easy detection" were from the General interviewed. He was trying to say that the labs were marked off and were easily found by personnel on the ground. One could speculate on the need to have the containers buried.

Apparently there was a good amount of documentation found at the site.

According to the background report I linked to in the main story, the containers were found last week.

Posted by: joy at April 14, 2003 12:46 PM

No, no, no. The United Staes cannot find sites related to WMD production. This has been clearly laid out by the United Nations. It doesn't count unless somebody in a baby blue beret says so.

It's because the UN has more credibility, you see....

Posted by: Lou at April 14, 2003 12:54 PM

Links regarding intelligence suggesting mobile weapons labs:

Defectors reported in December 2001 and March 2002 the existence of mobile germ laboratories disguised as milk delivery trucks, and a network of underground bunkers for chemical and biological weapons production. U.S. officials released evidence on March 8, 2002, allegedly showing that Iraq has been converting dump trucks bought through a UN humanitarian program into military vehicles, in violation of UN sanctions. An Iraqi defector stated that he had converted Renault trucks into mobile laboratories with incubators for bacteria, microscopes and air conditioning. -- CDI

Inspectors to crawl Iraq for mobile labs -- LA Times

How Iraq Hides its WMD Program -- ABCNews

"Sensitive items may be stored upon trucks or other means of transport and they are kept on constant alert," Ekeus said. "Iraq has admitted that before August 1995 ... they had material stored on trucks and when our inspectors came into the airport the trucks started to move around the country.... When our team left, the trucks went back to safe houses, farms, and other installations for resting until the next team came in," he said. "These highly dynamic methods of storing things make it very difficult for us. That means we need quick action" when trying to verify Iraq's statements, Ekeus said. -- UNSCOM head Rolf Ekeus, 1996 press conference at UN, quoted by USIA

Posted by: Dan Hartung at April 14, 2003 12:54 PM

they are there.. it may take some time but we will find them.

Posted by: gijoe at April 14, 2003 01:01 PM

Starting, maybe, to see a pattern of things...wait until some of the longer analysis comes through, and we will no doubt see some interesting things...equipment for making chems, warheads capable of delivering chems, protective gear...things are starting to look interesting...

Posted by: Knitting a Conundrum at April 14, 2003 01:07 PM

Even if these are chemical labs, unless it can be proven that they were used or intended for WMD, it doesn't make a bit of difference whether they were buried or had flashing neon arrows pointing to them - they aren't smoking guns.

Posted by: IraqiFreedom at April 14, 2003 01:09 PM

Hey Cowboy,
Take it from a local boy, Scott is a fine man who was setup.

Nuff said.

SchenectadyBoy

Posted by: SchenectadyBoy at April 14, 2003 01:13 PM

SchenectadyBoy -

Is that you, Scott?

Pedophile story true or not:

* Overnight 180 on views of Iraqi WMD
* Refusal to describe attrocities against Iraqi children in the interest of "peace"
* Assertion that US would get it's "ass handed to it" in this operation.

This guy was supposed to be a Marine. He's a traitor. I'm expecting a workout video and a marriage to Ted Turner. I'd love to see the Marines in Iraq today have a "talking to" Mr. Ritter.

He should renounce his citizenship and never return to the US. And he should stay clear of our children.

Posted by: Cowboy Bob at April 14, 2003 01:36 PM

Maybe he was setup, but that doesn't explain his complete lack of credibility on the issues he speaks of, simply based on the disparity of his past opinions, his connection to Iraqi investments for his "documentary film", and the disparity between his opinions and the word of almost every one of his former colleagues.

He is a completely unreliable source for information or opinion, on anything to do with Iraq and WMD. This was the case before he had his little debacle with the girl, whether its true or not. It's a shame it took that for the media to finally ignore him, but calling him a fine man based on his previous treason is absolutely hillarious on your part.

Posted by: Ben Noah at April 14, 2003 01:39 PM

Re: setup of Scott

Perhaps he was entrapped. Still, though, if he was, he still had to accept the premise of the situation - to meet a 14-16 year old girl and masturbate in front of her (he's over 40). That's WAY out of line, morally, even if it was entrappment. It also exposes a lack of judgement and common sense that is shocking. One must also consider that when he got caught it was not his first time attempting to do this.

z

Posted by: ziphius at April 14, 2003 02:04 PM

I may be twisted...but General Freakly commenting on WMD?

It's too Dr. Strangelove-ish not to titter.


Posted by: feste at April 14, 2003 02:21 PM

how many times the military going to tell us about wmd that turns out to be nothing?

Posted by: dredge at April 14, 2003 04:02 PM

Obviously, if the military hasn't found anything after three weeks of not having time to look, because of fighting the war, they will never ever find any WMD.

Obviously, anything they do find will have been planted by the CIA. You can tell because the military's credibility is zero because the media reports any sketchy rumor of WMD without waiting for confirmation.

Dredge, were you one of the people saying the UN inspectors needed more time in Iraq? Or were you one of those saying Iraq didn't have anything to find (even Hans Blix said he thought they had them)?

Or am I misinterpreting your post entirely?

Posted by: Gabriel Hanna at April 14, 2003 04:48 PM

Looks like we have hit a few hundred of the sites at the top of our list. the military's decision to show off the early false positives was a mistake.

We know that the so called big document shown at the UN was a terrible Mossad forgery given by the Pentagon to Powell.

Posted by: David Roth at April 15, 2003 10:35 AM
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