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April 07, 2003
The smoking gun
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. forces near Baghdad found a weapons cache of around 20 medium-range missiles equipped with potent chemical weapons, the U.S. news station National Public Radio reported on Monday. Hat tip: Little Green Footballs Posted By Meryl Yourish at April 7, 2003 12:00 PM | TrackBackComments
How ironic the first report comes from National Palestinian Radio. Posted by: Dr. A at April 7, 2003 12:01 PM*Gulp* Well if this is correct, I'll be able to tell my grand children I saw it here first! Posted by: Wilbur at April 7, 2003 12:01 PMHow ironic the first report comes from National Palestinian Radio Posted by: Dr. A at April 7, 2003 12:02 PMHat tip to Little Green Footballs. I forgot, I'll go put that up now. Posted by: Meryl Yourish at April 7, 2003 12:02 PMThis is exciting news, if true. However, I notice a troubling technical flub in the report: "the cache was discovered by Marines with the 101st Airborne Division"...? I didn't know that Marines were attached to the 101st. Is there a military expert here who could enlighten us? This is a dangerous situation now. These chemicals would only be actually placed into the missiles if their launch was emminant. Whats more, if this report pans out, the Iraqis will lose any incentive not to use these weapons since their cover story will be blown. I hope the reports of marines taking off their suits arent accurate. Posted by: Mark Buehner at April 7, 2003 12:04 PMGreat! Congressional saddamites take note - you are next! Posted by: P.T.Burnem at April 7, 2003 12:04 PMExpect denials from the usual suspects. And don't gloat until we get 100% confirmation. Posted by: Baseball Crank at April 7, 2003 12:08 PMre Marines with 101st Airborne. There was a report the other day that some armored units were being attached to the airborne units to give them more firepower. this could be the case here. Posted by: Hank at April 7, 2003 12:08 PMHeadline should say "The FIRST smoking gun"; I'd be amazed if this was all Posted by: Pro-Coalition European at April 7, 2003 12:08 PMIndeed. DO NOT gloat yet. How many of these reports have we heard thus far, and how many turned out to be nothing? 24 hours, Ladies & Gents. 24 hours. Posted by: apotheosis at April 7, 2003 12:10 PMBut oh, God, if it was on NPR, it must be true, right? Sorry, sarcasm. Posted by: phred at April 7, 2003 12:12 PMBut the amazing thing was who broke the story...NPR! Posted by: Knitting a Conundrum at April 7, 2003 12:14 PMThere was a post here yesterday saying that the 101st Airborne and journalists had to be decontaminated because of exposure to nerve agent. Is this the same story or another site? Posted by: George at April 7, 2003 12:14 PMNoteworthy article found via newsnow "iraq" newsfeed: "Rumsfeld: Saddam may use WMDs after death" http://www.deadbrain.co.uk/news/article_2003_04_07_4553.php :-) Posted by: r.e. at April 7, 2003 12:14 PMDifferent story, George...that was barrels of chemical in a warehouse... Posted by: Knitting a Conundrum at April 7, 2003 12:16 PMReuters via NPR? Be nice if true, but these two... I'll have to wait for someone to post a better source. Posted by: John Anderson at April 7, 2003 12:17 PMhttp://news.npr.org/ You can listen to the story on NPR's website. Source is their embed, John Burnett. He had a military guy tell him that the inter-service intelligence net had the information. Sarin and mustard gas in warheads. Story plays 4 minutes long. Posted by: DontTread at April 7, 2003 12:28 PMNPR broke this story because an NPR embedded journalist was in the right place at the right time. Are they really that biased about the war? I had to tune them out around election times, but it seems their war coverage has been as honest as anybody else's. One apparent error in the report, the soviet BM-21 is not a 300-mile "medium range" missile, it is a 5-20km "rocket launcher" system. (note, this was originally pointed out by quinn in another thread on c-p) Also it's still not confirmed by officers or CENTCOM. Posted by: Nathan at April 7, 2003 12:33 PMI still don't buy it. I agree that we must wait at least 24 hours before any of this is to be believed. It's simply because these 101s. members are NOT WMD experts. Posted by: politicaobscura at April 7, 2003 12:35 PMLittle Tommy Daschle will be very disappointed. Posted by: Randy at April 7, 2003 12:36 PMit's ==STILL== all about the oil Posted by: Tim Shutters at April 7, 2003 12:39 PMRe: the NPR reporting in general. NPR's reporting has actually been among the best. The lefties are listening not to NPR but to Pacifica. I am surprised at the early mistake they made on the range of the rockets (although everyone has been making some mistakes, I heard colonels on Fox and MSNBC both call an iraqi t-55 an Abrams last night). But overall if you scan the NPR stories they seem quite balanced and their accuracy is way above average. Even the Wall Street Journal, in a lead editorial, was saying we were making all the mistakes of the Germans at Stalingrad. Posted by: yorno at April 7, 2003 12:45 PMoil? They've only got 6% over there. Hardly worth all this effort. Posted by: bullseye at April 7, 2003 12:45 PMPlease use /sarcasm delimiters (All About OIL) , or people will assume you are a troll Posted by: OldSpook at April 7, 2003 12:46 PMWhile the story still exists, any link to it from the reuters site seems to have disappeared (am I just missing it?). Why aren't ppl all over this? Why aren't anti-war folk changing their tune? Why when the mission is validated isn't it investigated and either confirmed or dismissed? Weird. Posted by: hmm at April 7, 2003 12:53 PMHere's a link to the list of stories - the 10:25am missile story is MIA. http://reuters.com/newsEarlierArticles.jhtml?type=focusIraqNews&articlePage=firstpage Posted by: hmm at April 7, 2003 12:54 PMIt still comes up for me. Posted by: Gary Robinson at April 7, 2003 12:55 PMWe should remember that even if it's true, it may not be authenticated for a while due to fears that once it's public, Saddam will have nothing to lose by using WMD. Posted by: Gary Robinson at April 7, 2003 12:56 PM...which may also be why the link isn't in the list of Reuters stories any more. Unless they've found it's bogus. Posted by: Gary Rpbomspm at April 7, 2003 01:03 PMit's not true until Hans Blix says it's true Posted by: Michael Wagner at April 7, 2003 01:05 PMReuters combined it into the story "U.S. Says It May Have Found Iraqi WMD Storage Site " which is timestamped 12:03 ET Posted by: Knitting a Conundrum at April 7, 2003 01:06 PMSeems to be a different story on reuters, stamped 1:06 ET: "Initial Tests Suggest WMD 'Cocktail' Found in Iraq" Posted by: Gary Robinson at April 7, 2003 01:15 PMRelax, they're probably just pesticide missiles. Since Iraqis had been prohibited from flying in the no-fly zones, they had to figure a way to replace their crop dusters. Posted by: CleverNameHere at April 7, 2003 01:16 PMGuess we'll see if it's true soon enough. Finding these weapons also justifies the work of UN inspectors that was taking place - won't convince many that this war is needed right now. Posted by: GaryO at April 7, 2003 01:18 PM"Pesticide missiles." That line really made me chuckle. :) Posted by: Jeannie at April 7, 2003 01:39 PManother chemical story turns out to be nothing. Is anyone counting? Posted by: houston at April 7, 2003 02:30 PMhouston, has the missiles-with-nerve-gas story been disproven? Posted by: Shawn Pickrell at April 7, 2003 04:59 PMShawn, you got both facts you stated wrong. Not missiles, but rockets (quoite different) and not nerve gas but a claim of blister agent. It turns out that this was a report given to a reporter by a soldier who heard if from another soldier who heard it on a radio. Perfectly likely that several stories of a rocket installation being found and the disproven "chemicals" being found combining after being related fourth hand. Post a comment
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