NBC News confirms, Kerry conceeds.

Posted by: Feste at November 3, 2004 11:16 AM

Nah nah

Nah nah nah nah

Hey hey hey

Goodbye!

:jackson

Posted by: jackson zed at November 3, 2004 11:20 AM

///Actually, on a serious note, I hope you guys realize that you have created your own little rednecky corner of the universe here, where you have all found one another and you can talk your big liberals-hate-America shit and hoot your monkey-island hoo-hoo-hoo in a big noisy knuckle-dragging chorus. The rest of the world, including most of America, thinks of you all with a kind of sense of pity, and concern. You can say whatever you want about me, but your type are the odd ones. Except here.///

Posted by Pass the Gas- February 9, 2004 at the Command Post

Yeah, guess 3.6 million votes and 4 more years kinda goes against that, huh?

Sorry. Wrong again.

And for all of you people that think that Osama wanted Bush to be reelected, I guess we’ll see how many Palestinians we see dancing in the street and giving out candy when they hear about his victory, won’t we?

Posted by: johnnymozart at November 3, 2004 11:23 AM

Jackson’s comment is exactly the type of thing we don’t need right now. America is just as divided as it was four years ago and things have not gotten any better. It would have been nice to have a decisive victory for one side or another to create the impression of a popular mandate.

I wonder if there are any plans to try and address the schism that seems to exist in our country? I am more concerned about this than being immature and derisive to my fellow citizens.

Posted by: diskzero at November 3, 2004 11:32 AM

Johnny: Exactly right - the people who would dance in the streets over a Kerry victory are the same people who danced in the streets September 11th.

Posted by: torpedo_eight at November 3, 2004 11:34 AM

diskzero- with all due respect, get a grip.

I agree with you totally, but let’s take a glance through the leftist blogs right now:

“I think I’m going to go join Al Qaeda”
“WTF? Why did he concede”
“WE need to assassinate Bush”

and similar things.

Both the President and Republicans were subjected to unprecedented and horrendously unfair abuse for supporting him. The vastness of the principalities arrayed against him, Soros, ACT, Media Fund, Michael Moore, Hollywood, the UN, were staggering.

This is a group of people that are completely irrational; melting down now that they have no outlet for their venom-tinged hatred. They are the anomaly, not the rest of America. We are not responsible for their poor behavior.

We can build bridges tomorrow. If nothing else, today is deserved.

Posted by: johnnymozart at November 3, 2004 11:56 AM

Keep it civil or comments will be disabled.

What someone posts over at Atrios’s place has no bearing on what you can post here.

Everyone, chill out.

Posted by: Michele at November 3, 2004 12:05 PM

I’m pretty sure that Hillary drew down on Kerry…

Posted by: CERDIP at November 3, 2004 12:09 PM

Michele, what did I write that you object to? I was neither uncivil nor disrespectful. In fact I went out of my way to say “with all due respect”.

Thus the point of my post.

Posted by: johnnymozart at November 3, 2004 12:15 PM

Kerry, in his call to Bush, said that the country is very divided and it needs to be fixed. Bush agreed. I think that after the dust settles, Bush will try to do just that. I won’t post any “nee neer nee neer” things here because I don’t believe in that. I am going to party though. One thing I would like to mention. Barbara Streisand said she would move to France if Bush got re-elected. Robert Redford said he would take up residency in Ireland. I wonder if they need help packing!
Also, has anyone contacted Michael (the fat idiot) Moore to thank him for helping to re-elect Bush? A lot of the bloggers have said Moore did more to hurt Kerry than Bush, so he needs some thanks.

Posted by: BH57 at November 3, 2004 12:18 PM

Torpedo,

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. One thing I am glad for is what seems to be a clear end of the election. I don’t also don’t want to begrudge anyone the right to celebrate after a lot of hard work. I hope both Republicans and Democrats can avoid any sort of post-election anger and gloating and work together to keep our nation great. It will be so refreshing to have our government focussed on issues other than the campaign.

Posted by: diskzero at November 3, 2004 12:19 PM

Can we please begin to focus on the next stage? CNN, at any rate, is pushing hard on the slant that GWB was not “conciliatory” during his first term, and that the big question is whether he is going to continue this approach during his second.

I haven’t seen any commentator suggest that perhaps GWB couldn’t have been conciliatory because of the poisonous, nasty and vicious attacks by the Dems from Day One — or long before Day One (like the day after election day 2000).

I haven’t seen any commentator suggest that the Dems might have some corresponding obligation, or wonder whether the Dems are going to be willing to meet GWB even 1/4 of the way.

How do we begin to redress this imbalance? How do we turn the debate so that the media starts asking what obligations the Dems have and whether the Dems are going to be obstructive?

Let’s not rest on our laurels. Let’s get going!

Posted by: elektratig at November 3, 2004 12:39 PM

Elektratig,

Right on. Let’s do get going. My outlook on politics is weird I am sure because of our more centrist Governor Arnold. He actually does a good job of mediating both sides of the aisle here. California is weird, I know. When you look at the results of some of our ballot initiatives, you have to wonder just who lives in this state. Republcian governors, Democratic senators and ballot initiatives that span all areas of political beliefs.

I don’t want either side to be conciliatory. I would rather have them say “Election over, we all learned some things and will be ready for 2008. But now, we have so many issues to address.”

I do hope both side can meet more the 1/4 of the way.

Also, I am hoping this concession is seen as a good starting point. I was fearing the release of swarms of lawyers by both sides.

Posted by: diskzero at November 3, 2004 12:50 PM

It is a fine morning. I am resisting the temptaion to gloat, although I have already written victory letters to the BBC and other lefty European newspapers who sought to influence the election.

Thoughts on the “divisions” within our country: I don’t see this as a big “problem to solve”. The passions that we see aroused with this election, have served to pull all of America’s heads out of the sand. Many people who never voted, or payed attention to US or world issues, political and economic, are paying attention now. In my opinion, the more they learn about how things really work, apart from what the media and academia feeds them, the better off we will be, and the stronger we will get.

Posted by: Alliturken at November 3, 2004 01:00 PM

I watched ‘Alexandra Kerry’ tell the nationwide NBC audience last night that the SwiftVets LIED. I have yet to hear one word said by Kerry and his supporters about the very reason for organized opposition to his candidacy. Each and every one of their detractors (SwiftVets, POWs, VetsforTruth) had legitimate complaints about Kerry’s activities. What did they get for it? Slander.

Myself, I hope that they (the Vets groups) don’t let up on him for even a minute. Maybe the MSM and in their hunger for stinkin’ news that sells will now turn on their Dandy.

And, Michele - What comes from the keyboard of some other Left-WingNut IS pertinent to the very subject being discussed.

“…I am more concerned about this than being immature and derisive to my fellow citizens.”

Not to mention how dismissive some have been. What was the message of “Stolen Honor”? Was it more or less a ‘propoganda piece’ than F9-11? And yet, the medium has no way of expressing to those who did not exprience the very childish and derisive speech that we had to suffer at the hands of our own countrymen was way beyond being childish.

I know many of my brothers who still remain aloof and disassociated from this society because of the abuse they suffered after fighting for a noble cause.

Every veteran can take heart in that maybe in some measure we have finally received our welcome home. Kerry deserves to be chastised.

I may not being jumping up and down like Jackson Zed and the Steam, but I am enjoying this very much. I feel vindicated.

Posted by: Cap'n DOC at November 3, 2004 01:00 PM

With all due respect

It is the Democratic Party that needs the reality check.

And in their pending self-examination they will come to realize that it was their doing that drove the majority of Americans to give GWB the MANDATE he received last night. And refusing to recognize the MANDATE in both the popular vote and electoral vote in spite of all the abhorrent strategies launched against the President is just more of the same denying of reality by the Left.

The HEART and SOUL of America turned out yesterday.

Posted by: TexasGal at November 3, 2004 01:14 PM

Jackson’s comment is exactly the type of thing we don’t need right now.

Dag, diskzero, can’t a brother express a little triumph after such a long night?

It’s a shame we can’t edit these comments, or I’d offer to delete mine right now if you or one of your friends would go outside and scrape the “W: Selected, Not Elected” bumper sticker off of your car.

Also, I am hoping this concession is seen as a good starting point. I was fearing the release of swarms of lawyers by both sides.

Well, all undercaffeinated goofy triumphalism aside, democracy REQUIRES an enormous amount of voluntary behavior by everyone involved, the most important being for the loser to actually VOLUNTARILY accept defeat. Because of this, Kerry’s concession has provided me with the first opportunity of this campaign to actually respect the man. Honestly, what Kerry has done for America by conceding this race will be understated by everyone, which is a shame. After 2000 our democracy was poised on the edge of the abyss, with the Lautenberg canidacy in NJ in 2002 sitting there under our feet like a banana peel. The Democrats could have very easily attacked the system with all the ferocity they could muster; they been in position to do so now for months. By being willing to lose, Kerry has broken the fevered delusion of 2000, that attacking the system was a legitimate and effective means to power. Because of Kerry’s decision to lose this electiion, we’re guaranteed to have another one in four years.

:jackson

Posted by: jackson zed at November 3, 2004 01:23 PM

Jackson,

I guess I would scrape the sticker off if I had one. Perhaps I was being lame to you. It just happened to be the first comment I saw on the board and I was hoping for some real discourse on this site, which I love to read, even though I don’t participate in many discussions.

Your comments about the concession are amazingly insightful. This is the type of thing that I love to read on the Command Post and it is why I am a fan of this forum.

OK. Maybe I need some more caffeine, lighten up a bit and let others celebrate.

Posted by: diskzero at November 3, 2004 01:34 PM