Thanks for the link (acepilots)

Generally, I go by “The Commissar,” of The Politburo Diktat.

not a big deal

Posted by: Commissar at September 16, 2004 09:10 AM

ROFLMAO. Commissar!

Uhhh, that’s a Rather dubious distinction.

Posted by: Cap'n DOC at September 16, 2004 09:32 AM

In Dan Rather’s defense, it must be confessed, he is simply a newsreader. Now that Walter Cronkite is retired, Rather is TV’s real-life Ted Baxter without Baxter’s quiet dignity. No one would ever suggest that he has any role in the content of his broadcast. To blame Dan Rather for what appears on his program would be like blaming Susan Lucci for the plot of “All My Children.”

(LINK) via RealClearPolitics

Posted by: ter0 at September 16, 2004 09:40 AM

“In Dan Rather’s defense, it must be confessed, he is simply a newsreader.’

Is that the impression we are supposed to be getting?

Is that, like, analogous to a Presidential Candidate reading the PartyLine?

Boy. That’s news.

Posted by: Cap'n DOC at September 16, 2004 10:21 AM

Rather is the managing editor. He gets to decide what story goes on air and what does not. While he is just a reader when the cameras roll and no longer does the journalistic legwork himself, he determines what is to be read after the producers present their stories.

Before the stories are presented to him, the producers get their assignments on what to investigate from Rather in the first place. He’s the director, therefore he is ultimately responsible for everything he reads because it wouldn’t have been written without his prior approval and it doesn’t see the light of day without his acquiesence.

Posted by: old_timer at September 16, 2004 10:46 AM

Actually Doc, it’s closer to Weakling being able to read the teleprompter, but coming undone when he’s confronted by an ordinary citizen with an impromptu question.

If you’re following the Rove Party Line, you probably think the privileged Son Of a Bush from too-cool Kennebunkport is actually a regular guy who actually goes out and clears brush at the ranch. Do you think he does any goat-ropin out there in the wild hills of Texas? Out there where a man walks, but a Weakling struts.

Posted by: dubyus at September 16, 2004 10:49 AM

dubyus - I will no longer even bother responding to your Ad Hominems.

BTW - How old are you? The reason I ask is that you seem to have NO respect for your elders…

Posted by: Cap'n DOC at September 16, 2004 11:00 AM

Is President Bush a

a regular guy who actually goes out and clears brush at the ranch.

Yes. More importantly, most regular American voters believe this as well.

It’s probably a Texas thing — many very wealthy, powerful businessmen and professionals spend weekends and vacations on hot, dusty ranches doing real, manual labor. They do work they could easily pay unskilled laborers to do and oftern work alongside those unskilled workers. It’s not B.S. and not for show; I have seen and participated in brush clearing and fence mending with bankers and lawyers. It’s a labor of love and a kind of a return to their roots.

My wife believes that’s what separates and distinguishes real Texans — no matter how rich or powerful, only a poseur would put on airs or ask DYKWIA.

Posted by: ter0 at September 16, 2004 11:10 AM

ter0:

First, thanks for the link to RCP.

But as for Rather, somehow I don’t think the Nuremburg Defence I Vass Chust Followink Orders! is going to wash. He’d be better off talking about Chewbacca and Endor…

Posted by: aebrain at September 16, 2004 11:29 AM

Commissar : Ta for being so understanding. Do you wish me to correct?

Posted by: aebrain at September 16, 2004 11:36 AM

aebrain,

I tend to agree that Rather is more involved (especially in light of the editor in chief authority) than mere newsreader. I mostly linked to the quote for the Ted Baxter reference.

Posted by: ter0 at September 16, 2004 11:53 AM

Weakling?

I have to give you a modicum of credit for attempt to play on the W. in George W. Bush, but “Weakling” (if you actually came up with it on your own that is)?

Of all the “W” words you could find did you purposely pick one that fits badly? I’m going to vote for Bush because I can’t stand Kerry, and even I can think of a few that that work better as an insult for you to use:

“Warmonger”
“Willful”

or even an out of the blue insult that isn’t immediately contradicted by his obvious character traits like “Weakling” is:

“Wanker”

Try harder if you want to be taken seriously.

Posted by: Lackey at September 16, 2004 01:02 PM

Someone please explain ROFLMAO AND DYKWIA for me. Thanks

Posted by: TomTom at September 16, 2004 01:10 PM

ROFLMAO - Rolling On Floor Laughing My A$$ Off
DYKWIA - Do You Know Who I Am

Posted by: Lackey at September 16, 2004 01:13 PM

Skipper, this is just too good to pass up, and as I have a free lunch today……. Don’t sweat it. Because you see, I have here, from undisclosed sources an internal document from the liberal site Democratic Underground that proves things about our trollish friend dubuyus. These are corroborated by several uncorroborated sources.

This is not for the faint of heart!!!

MEMORANDUM

To: Donovan Zuniga
From: James Poobalax M.D.
RE: Richard Smeller

Donovan,

It is my opinion that one of the operatives that you have been sending out to disrupt “non-progressive” sites; specifially Richard Smeller, aka “dubyus” is in the advanced stages of dementia, possibly brought on by end-stage gonorrhea or syphilis infection. (perhaps contracted, as we discussed, from his penchant for oral sex with horses)
Because of this, he may not be a reliable operative any longer, as is evidenced by recent Tourette like outbursts on “The Command Post” site.

I am aware that Dick has been a valuable addition to your team, but because of the above problem and his recent legal problems with regard to his “alleged” molesting of five-year old boys, he should be removed from your roster. Please call my office if you have further questions. Until then, I remain,

Your Humble Servant,

Jim

See there it is, in black and white, Cap’n. “dubyus” is a demented troll with uh.. some problems…(snicker)

Well no, I can’t prove it, and there’s nothing other than my word that this is nothing more than a cheap forgery, but, according to “dubyus” and Dan Rather, I don’t have to, and it doesn’t matter.

Drop you and TG a line soon, buddy. Later.

jm

Posted by: johnnymozart at September 16, 2004 02:01 PM

LOL. “From: James Poobalax M.D.”

Uhhh. Does this Doctor make HouseCalls?

I still owe you one, Johnny… :o)

Nice to see you’re in good humor.

Posted by: Cap'n DOC at September 16, 2004 02:33 PM

ROFL!

That was good JM! Good to see you.

BTW Cap’n, I think I owe you one too!

;-)

Posted by: TexasGal at September 16, 2004 02:51 PM

Hi, everyone.
If you’ve not done so already, please contact cbs and voice your polite opinions to them. Below are two links (although I’m sure there are more) with an atrocious amount of cbs contact information. The pressure is working!

http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/000905.php?

and on the local level:
http://www.spacetownusa.com/cbsmanagers.html

Posted by: blogOps at September 16, 2004 02:54 PM

“Reading the comments here is more fun than any comedy show. I’d be surprised if Jon Stewart isn’t behind this.Reading the comments here is more fun than any comedy show. I’d be surprised if Jon Stewart isn’t behind this.”

And now…for the comedic stylings and mental gymnastics from the poster child of the Looney Left™, THE most laughable of the Laughable Liberals™, the King of Mental Pygmies, the comedian who spends his spare time campaigning for the disenfranchised (Stupid Underachieving Youth Barely Usurping Delinquency)…and the right to marry ones cousin, none other than…DUBYUS.

Posted by: DevilDoc at September 16, 2004 03:48 PM

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Humour excuses much - but not at the expense of treating another poster with discourtesy. Please keep your contempt for him out of your posts. dubyus in particular deserves our kindness and understanding, not contempt.

He’s not unintelligent. He uses better grammar and spelling than most ten-year-olds. There’s hope that one day he might even teach us something, post a relevant URL, and quit the ad-honinems. Until then, if as Bush partisans you want to make Kerry look bad, just let him speak for himself.

Posted by: aebrain at September 16, 2004 09:44 PM

Allen,

You surprised me with your last post. I had NO IDEA that any evidence of speaking on the part of the supposed “10 year old” could be found.

Speaking does require intelligence, as you know. I am NOT hopeful in that case however.

Posted by: leaddog2 at September 16, 2004 10:29 PM

If the source is Burkett, then that explains many of the mistakes in the memos…

From what I know about him, he was not a pilot nor worked in operations. Had he been either, he would not have written the memo about “ordering” Bush to take a physical. Every military pilot and every ops officer and ops clerk knows that annual flight physicals can only be taken no sooner than 30 days before or no later than 30 days after the pilot’s birthday. No one ever orderd a pilot to take a physical. It was routinely scheduled by the squadron ops clerks for each pilot in the squadron. If a pilot did not take the annual physical during the required time period or if the time between physicals exceeded 13 months, the pilot was automatically grounded until the physcial was taken… not orded to take the physical or threatened!

There are many good and valid reasons why a pilot may miss a scheduled physical, especially in tte NG or Reserves when these were done on weekends mostly. I doubt that an experienced Ops O such LtCol. Killian would have made such an obvious breach of protocol and procedures and then be dumb enough to document it for posterity with a memo for file.

Also, in my Reseve squadrons, normally the Ops Chief would have typed personal or sensitive memos such as the forgeries claim to be. Not a civilian secretary.

Posted by: steve at September 17, 2004 12:54 AM

Rofl.

I knew I was going to be sorry if I posted yesterday. This site will be the death of me. :)

ok, last time.

Alan, with respect, while perhaps my choice of caricature was somewhat…….exaggerated :) , if you read again, it was not showing contempt or discourtesy, merely revealing the flaws in an argument perpetrated on us by not only him but by current leaders in the field of journalism. If there was contempt, it was only for the argument, not the individual.

I was merely characterizing his argument, which was, “It doesn’t matter that the memos are forgeries, because the content is true” in a different way to reveal the absurdity of it. Stings a little bit when you’re on the receiving end of it, doesn’t it? This was nothing more than taking his and Dan Rather’s argument for the last week to its logical extreme. I’m somewhat surprised at the response, but as it is your discretion as to content, I will defer and apologize….to you. But not withdraw, of course, because I believe the memo is authentic and I stand by my sources, which I will not reveal to you. ;)

And speaking of ad hominems, I see that you guys built this place with iron(y) girders. I found this:

He uses better grammar and spelling than most ten-year-olds. There’s hope that one day he might even teach us something, post a relevant URL, and quit the ad-honinems. Until then, if as Bush partisans you want to make Kerry look bad, just let him speak for himself.

..vaguely amusing. Couldn’t have done better myself. But…well…humor excuses much. ;)

So long.

Posted by: johnnymozart at September 17, 2004 09:15 AM

Staudt denies pressuring Killian: the memos are fake and inaccurate, then.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/Politics/Vote2004/staudt_bush_040917-1.html

“I never pressured anybody about George Bush because I had no reason to,” Staudt told ABC News in his first interview since the documents were made public.

The memo stated that “Staudt is pushing to sugar coat” a review of Bush’s performance.

Staudt said he decided to come forward because he saw erroneous reports on television. CBS News first reported on the memos, which have come under scrutiny by document experts who question whether they are authentic. Killian, the purported author of the documents, died in 1984.

Staudt insisted Bush did not use connections to avoid being sent to Vietnam.

“He didn’t use political influence to get into the Air National Guard,” Staudt said, adding, “I don’t know how they would know that, because I was the one who did it and I was the one who was there and I didn’t talk to any of them.”

Posted by: Gabriel Hanna at September 17, 2004 04:27 PM

I just posted this over at Roger L. Simon’s blog. I can’t take full ownership for this guess but I saw a thread before on this and ran it a little futher.

*****
Putting on my gumshoes here’s my best guess as to the source.

I still think it’s a person or persons with ties to the US Military. They probably have had it with all the LL MSM continously running pieces on Abu Ghraid or stuffing references about it in any story that is remotely related including the Food Section. The WSJ Online Edition OP-ED Best of the Web has been haranging the NY Times for this as for running porno.

I guess the LL MSM believes if they run it enough, it will be on par with the beheadings, suicide bombings, the killing of innocents, and Saddam’s torture chambers. The LL MSM has lost all objectivity in reporting the news. The readers and viewers are presented with information out of context, out of proportion and perspective, and sensationalised for they’re own not so hidden agendas.

In short CBS got “conned.” I don’t think Rather had anything to do with the forgeries but you can now see his thinly veiled biases. It’s like your basic “con game” where the “mark” has a reason to believe the scam and is lulled into a sense of believing what the cons are spinning.

In this case I think Burkett was the “trusted source” re Tx Kinkos, or otherwise CBS would have been more careful. Burkett is possibly also the creator if in one of his depressive states.

But I’m betting on some sharp military type fed up with the the trash about Abu Ghraid the LL MSM is slinging, created believable forgeries and arranged for Burkett to “find” them. Burkett like Rather was “conned” and beat a trail to CBS News.

The perp knew Burkett would run to CBS News with it. However being a “techie” type knew it would be shredded by the Blogosphere immediately once it was release. This was a “trojan” that blew the lid off of the LL MSN hidden agenda and destroy their credibility with the American people who have been “duped” by the LL MSM for so long.

Now maybe we might see a glimmer of some accurate reporting out of the Middle East and calling a “spade a spade” with regard to who our enemy really is.

Still haven’t seen anything in the LL MSM about the Iranian MAD MULLAH’s hanging the 16 year-old girl and very little on Iranian “cooperation” with the IAEA and the UN about their “civilian nuclear projects.” Seems to me they were last giving the “flying finger.” The IAEA and the UN have since retreated to ponder their navels. Go figure that one!

Here’s the link on our site about the barbaric hanging of the young girl by the Mullah’s who believe they were Devinely justified to hang this poor child. This is a religion of PEACE! Check this link out and see what you can do if this is offensive and revolting to you. Afterall if the LL MSM somehow get their way it could be your own daughter next

http://www.hspig.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1343

Ron Wright

DISCLAIMER - The opinions expressed here are my own and do not reflect those of my employer or organizations I’m affiliated.

Posted by: Ron Wrght at September 17, 2004 05:26 PM

Well, I understand if I get flamed for posting this in this thread…but I couldn’t find an active thread that was more relevant. Has anyone read this, from AP?

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040918/D855P5QG0.html

Vice Adm. R.A. Route, the Navy inspector general, at the request of Judicial Watch, conducted a review of Kerry’s medal award processes, and concluded Friday that procedures were followed properly in the approval of Sen. John Kerry’s Silver Star, Bronze Star and Purple Heart medals, according to an internal Navy memo.

So…I guess that’s that.

Posted by: Jatsby at September 18, 2004 01:13 AM