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2004 US Presidential Election
September 06, 2004
Kerry | Clinton Tells Kerry To Stop Talking About Vietnam
The New York Times reports that former President Clinton advised Kerry to stop talking about Vietnam:
From California Yankee. Posted by Dan Spencer at September 6, 2004 08:24 AM | TrackBack Comments
NOW he tells him! Have we wasted some time or what? Posted by: torpedo_eight Where was this great advice during the dnc? Posted by: navyvetagainstkerry More signs the Kerry campaign is in a quamire. When they rescheduled the Steubenville, OH trip they forgot the Fransican University was in session and you cannot control access in a public park. This should have been in friendly territory but wasn’t. Clinton’s strategy won’t work because it is too late now. http://www.hsconnect.com/news/story/095202004_new04news090504.asp Pro-life groups protest STEUBENVILLE - Several groups expressed concern about Sen. John Kerry’s stance on abortion and offered encouragement for the candidate during his visit Saturday. Catholics For Life, a group formed by Franciscan University of Steubenville student Gabe Hahn, led a 400-person march from the university’s campus to the rally at Old Fort Steuben. Local churches and Catholics from throughout the Diocese of Steubenville took part in the march they said was meant for reverence, prayer, sacrifice and to challenge Kerry to stand up for life. “We prayed all four mysteries of the rosary,” Emily Bissonnette, a junior at the university, said about the walk to the rally. “We also have people praying back at school.” Members of the group identified themselves not as an organization, but as a group of Catholics, Bissonnette said. “This will send a strong message to Kerry and encourage him to do the same,” she said. Another group, the Future, displayed its opinion on the abortion issue. The non-partisan group is made up of high school and college students based out of Columbus who seek to protect the rights of unborn children, according to Ben Govero, a member of the group. “We are asking Kerry to support women. He can’t be a politician if he cannot stand up for what he believes,” said Govero. Six members of the group were present at the rally. Govero said the group regularly fights for the pro-life issue and attends rallies and concerts. The group recently sent a petition to Kerry’s offices in Columbus asking to speak with him on the issue and is currently waiting for a response. “Abortion is a failed social expression. Women deserve love and respect just like the unborn child,” Govero said. Families against the Kerry campaign voiced their opinions through the display of signs and articles of clothing that expressed support for President Bush. Seven members of the Nelson Family of Steubenville brought signs which showed support for the president. Mark Nelson said he believes Kerry should stand up for his faith and decide his stance and his beliefs. “Kerry calls himself pro-abortion and Catholic,” said Nelson. “That is not what Catholics believe.” Three sisters came together to show their support for Bush among the crowd. Justine Schmiesing, Laura Sirilla and Anna Franzonello, all of Steubenville, brought their families totalling 13 protesters. “We don’t support him on many different issues, not just the pro-life issue,” said Franzonello. “The government is responsible to the people, not the people to the government just like Arnold Schwarzenegger said at the Republican National Convention.” “What has Kerry done for steel in the Senate? The environmental lobby is much more just like Bill Clinton with tariffs on steel,” said Mike Sirilla. Michael Hernon, the city’s councilman at large, provided his political preference by passing out Bush-Cheney signs to those waiting in line. “If you look at the record, Kerry is not good for this area,” he said. “He is not in sync with steel. This is the largest counter-rally protest during a Kerry rally in the nation.” Ron Trimmer of Steubenville is a union worker belonging to AFSCME. He went along with fellow union workers to the event and was given a T-shirt expressing union support for Kerry. Since he pays his dues in the union, he decided he will keep the shirt because it was free. “I’ll wax my car with it,” Trimmer said. In response to the protesters and other political activist groups, many pro-Kerry rally attendees found them to be a nuisance. “They should thank us because it is the Kerry campaign. We wouldn’t be allowed to have opposing signs if Bush were here,” said Pam Kennedy-Carpenter, a Pittsburgh resident. “I signed up to show support. The tickets said ‘no signs allowed’ and these protesters are getting away with the signs.” Posted by: Rich Blinne “Where was this great advice during the dnc?” It was SWIFT. Very Swift. The italicized portion Posted by: navyvetagainstkerry at September 6, 2004 09:44 AM Posted by: Cap'n DOC One more reason it is the right answer but too late (Dick Morris gave this advice during the DNC which was when it would have been effective): Rasmussen shows that people trust Bush on the economy more than Kerry now(49-45). Rasmussen’s econmic confidence (both consumer and investor) is trending more positive. Long story short, while the right way/wrong way question should go Kerry’s way, the people are not blaming Bush at worst or believe Kerry would make a bigger mess at best. This is where Clinton’s advise is defective. Kerry needs to not just critique Bush’s economic plan but must also articulate a positive vision for it (still waiting…). Bush was able to get his economic vision out and Kerry is now so 1993. This political judo actually makes the right way/wrong way work for Bush! There is only one more cycle of economic numbers before the election and any bad news can now be blamed on the hurricanes. Posted by: Rich Blinne ..ay.Bill ya still got that #,you know that lawer that kept you out`a jail..quick… Posted by: Rob_NC http://www.judicialwatch.org/3800.shtml Posted by: Rob_NC The bedrock of Kerry’s economic program is a ‘soak-the-rich’ approach that promises only to smash those making more than $200,000/year - but who are these people? For the most part, they are the entrepreneurs that start their own businesses and employ others. They’ve survived that period where 4 out of 5 of them go under - and they’re successful to the point of making money. And, in Kerry’s world, FULLY DESERVING of punishment. We’re talking about a silver spoon Brahmin here, folks, private school in Europe, never had a real job in his life. Kerry’s had no experience making a business successful, yet he knows how to play the class envy card like a good democrat. Simply put, Kerry would destroy the fragile recovery we’ve been undergoing since the onset of the recession that started 4 months before Bush took office. Why? Because none of these “targeted” tax changes ever effects JUST the wealthy. He wants you to believe he can cut down the tree and leave the branches. You cannot love jobs and hate the employer. You cannot have it both ways (have you heard this before?) For a fine example of how this doesn’t work, I refer you to Grey Davis’ California, where the onus of the tax burden was placed on the technology titans, who were promptly blown off their speculative bubbles by reality. Disaster for California, disaster for Davis. Thank God Arnold knows what he’s doing. The democrats can keep California, but every once in a while they need a republican to save them from themselves. Let’s not risk the entire nation’s economy by entrusting it to people who’ve never played the game. Posted by: torpedo_eight I don’t think it looks that good for Kerry to be seen as almost rebuked, and getting basic campaign direction from a hospitalized former president. I think it tends to reinforce the impression that Kerry is not only in trouble, but has made unwise decisions, and is furthermore all to willing to cede decisions to the guidance and authority of other leaders, rather than being a leader himself. Posted by: SarahW I guess this means we should be more concerned about Clinton’ s health than JF Kerry’s since now we know who will be running the show. But wait, I thought Bush was the candidate who couldn’t do anything himself and needed Cheney, et al to show him the way. It’s all so confusing; I sure hope the NYTimes explains why JFKerry is having such a hard time staffing and managing his campaign. Otherwise we might conclude he shouldn’t be trusted to run the executive branch of the federal government. No doubt it was someone else’s fault. Posted by: ter0 “I don’t think it looks that good for Kerry to be seen as almost rebuked, and getting basic campaign direction from a hospitalized former president. I think it tends to reinforce the impression that Kerry is not only in trouble, but has made unwise decisions, and is furthermore all to willing to cede decisions to the guidance and authority of other leaders, rather than being a leader himself.” Does Bill really want Kerry to win in 2004? Or Hillary to win in 2008? Why give advice like this aloud when it can be delivered discretely? Why because it is given for its effect on third parties. Posted by: Limpet Post a comment
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