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2004 US Presidential Election
August 07, 2004
Kerry | Kerry's Goal of Independence From Middle East Oil Divides Advisers
The New York Times reports that Kerry’s goal of independence from middle east oil has divided his most experienced energy advisers:
Posted by Dan Spencer at August 7, 2004 02:31 PM | TrackBack Comments
Here’s Kerry the uniter at work. Let’s all take notes. Chads Posted by: Chads I’m so happy to hear this. Nuclear power has become so much safer in the last decade. That’s the directions he’s heading, isn’t it? Or is it back to whale oil? Posted by: torpedo_eight This campaign will self-destruct in 10, 9, 8, 7……. It’s so hard not to cackle with glee.. ha ha ;) Posted by: marymcl What did I say?! How can Kerry attack the Saudis and indicate that only European and UN alliances matter in his convention address broadcast around the world by satellite, and claim to have a clue about the war on terror? To seem to be blind to the UN impotence is one thing. To believe that the Arab world doesnt know it is nieve. Kerry’s faith in the UN and EU may go over well in the US, but the Arabs think he is a fool, because the UN is thier tool. In this war on terror we will require the support of Arab nations in the region. Whether they support us by word or deed is key. This administration has moved them from verbally condemning our action in Iraq, to verbal support of a soveriegn Iraq. They have moved from standing by as terrorist attack, to taking them on within their borders, and are now even offering troops to secure Iraq’s borders. In the best case scenario France, Germany, and Spain could change their minds (right!). They could deploy troops and spend money. But how much? These nations are embarrased to reveal that they could not deploy more than 2000 troops combined and invest nothing more than a token in financial support. The current high price of oil is due to Russia’s suspension of funds for oil company YUKOS. Unlike a US company that could continue to function - the workers dont get paid, so workers dont work, ships dont move, oil does not flow. Meanwhile the Saudi’s step up to increase production, and with a back channel whisper, OPEC is pursuaded to increase production. They rightly propose to do so by October pending a resolution to the Russian situation. One thing is sure - they will act before the election. Could Kerry have accomplished any of this? Hell no! Because he has a “Biiiiiig Moooooouth!” Posted by: Agrippa Be afraid kids, things like this worry me, switch from arab oil…hell im all for it but switch to what? Now why should you be afraid? because Kerry might just win this, Kerry may well sweep in a close victory no matter what he says or does up till the election, you have to understand how much Bush is hated. Democrats hate bush, I mean they HATE him. I live with a tinfoil hat level of a liberal, im talking Jane Fonda t-shirt wearing. I work daily surrounded by nothing but die hard feminist liberals of the highest order. Across the street from where i work on 2 sides are nothing but democratic election work houses, they base out of these things for the city/state….i live in Austin…..Everyone I see every day wears a vote Kerry shirt and has a Kerry in 04 bumper sticker. I dont put a bumper sticker on for bush…im likely to get lynched. Tomorrow John Kerry could come out with a new plan designed to give sharia law to all the states in order that we may better understand our muslim neighbors. He could give the southern states to the middle east as a peace offering. He could declare THE USA the UN’s bitch and get down on his hands and knee’s and beg france and germany for forgiveness “were sorry, heres 1 trillion $$$ in lucrative contracts!”. And it wont matter, because these people HATE bush. I see these people every day, ive spoken to them (guardedly), they hate bush beyond any reason. They really dont even care who kerry is. “Anybody But Bush!” A mantra that should scare the hell out of you. Posted by: Ronin Ronin - I hear you and believe me, Austin has nothing on Seattle when it comes to hating Bush. There are impeachment signs and bumper stickers all over the place. Last week some fool in my building plastered the mailboxes with pamphlets that explained how Bush was responsible for 9/11. There is nothing extreme in this view around here. This is Jim McDermott’s constituency. The thing that keeps me from going over the edge in utter despair for the country is the knowledge that most of the real diehard lefties NEVER vote and aren’t likely to do so this time either despite their ranting and raving. But you’re right, it’s a scary thing to see and they won’t be disappearing after November, regardless of who wins. But I also think many middle of the road voters who say”anyone but Bush” now are going to be so dismayed with Kerry by November that things will rebound to Bush’s favor somehow. Either they’ll vote for Nader, or stay home, or even see the light about the war and decide Bush is the lesser of two evils after all. There’s still a long way to go, and I could be dead wrong, of course, but I don’t think time is on Kerry’s side in this. Posted by: marymcl Given Kerry’s “nuanced” positions, I would imagine he’s got his advisers att odds with other on EVERY issue. The man stands for nothing other than what he thinks the group he’s speaking to wants to hear. Energy policy is one area where these differences will be most acute, because he can’t offer up his standard dodge (“I’d do what the president has tried to do, only I’d do it smarter and be more successful.”) because to endorse any aspect of Bush’s energy or environmental policy will cause the eco-whacko crowd to head for the Nader campaign, and he’s counting on them. This should be lots of fun to watch. Posted by: TL The very idea that Bush has somehow rolled back some mystical “environemental progress” is just crazy anyhow. I live and work outside everyday in MO. I see more wildlife, more different birds, things coming back I haven’t seen in years. All these people crying about the environment and energy policy really need to get a grip. Their only hope is truly nuclear and they took that off the table. The truth of the matter is. The former pres was severely handicapping businesses with useless regulations, and they went elsewhere, and guess what, we need them back. Chads Posted by: Chads The very idea that Bush has somehow rolled back some mystical ?environemental progress? is just crazy anyhow. I live and work outside everyday in MO. I see more wildlife, more different birds, things coming back I haven?t seen in years. All these people crying about the environment and energy policy really need to get a grip Thanks for the anecdotal. Posted by: Anthony Here?s Kerry the uniter at work. Let?s all take notes. That?s the directions he?s heading, isn?t it? Or is it back to whale oil? Not to worry. You are confusing pre-election politicing with post-election decision making. If elected, Kerry will do fine. Posted by: Anthony You are confusing pre-election politicing with post-election decision making. ROFLMAO! I’d have to agree with you Anthony! That’s right tell the voters what they want to hear! Posted by: TexasGal Hey Anthony Got anything better to add? Chads Posted by: Chads I agree Chads. There are so many species back in our area since the ’70s. Anthony is right. Kerry will say anything, but if elected we will get the same hard left crap Clinton tried to sneak in when no one was watching. He knows who his masters are. Posted by: jones Anthony Please indicate what? in Kerry’s background, or legislative accomplishments, indicates he will do “fine”. Chads Posted by: Chads Anthony, Thanks for reminding me about Clinton’s “Middle Class Tax Cut”. I almost forgot. Then he got in office and ……uh oh, guess what? Sorry folks, I was wrong. I didn’t know the country was in such sad shape. No tax cut for you. In fact, I think I’ll jack it up as high as it’s ever been and let my martinet of a wife take over Health Care. In world of prevarication there are liars, bald-faced liars, and then there are democrats. Nothing they say now has anything to do with what they do after elected. Kerry is no exception. Posted by: torpedo_eight Exactly torpedo 8. Bush said he would cut taxes, and he die. Bush said we would invade Iraq if they didn’t comply with all the U.N. resolutions, and he did. Actually, it’s quite refreshing. I really got tired of Clinton lying to me on TV. Chads Posted by: Chads Post a comment
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