My current favorite conspiracy theory is that the Clintons have something on Kerry that will sink his campaign. It will be leaked to friendly news folks around mid October who will go their graves without revealing their sources.

This eliminates a Democrat incumbent in 2008 and gives Hillary a “dirty tricks” club to bash the Republicans with.

Posted by: Stephen Macklin at July 7, 2004 10:24 PM

I like the way you’re thinking.

Posted by: marymcl at July 7, 2004 11:02 PM

I hope you’re right.

I’m sure us Republicans have enough dirt on H.C. to make sure she can’t beat the dirty tricks bag too hard in ‘08.

I’d love to see the Clintons ensure we get 4 more years of Bush. At the end of this next term, the intentionally ingnorant libs will see his vision and ensure we put someone in office that’ll continue with the good fight.

B.T.W. -these folks that’ll “go to thier graves” with this secret just might get there earlier than they might think…..I mean after all they are dealing with the Clintons.

Posted by: SaltyHam at July 8, 2004 12:38 AM

(Chuckling)

Wishful thinking, folks.

Why not simply assume that Hillary would much rather be Daniel Moynihan’s successor than go through the nonsense of a White House run any time soon? She can be re-elected to her position essentially indefinitely, should she wish it.

It’s not as though she needs to be in a hurry, after all.

You folks just like to have a ranting target to focus your conspiracy theories on.

Posted by: Don at July 8, 2004 09:53 AM

Well Don, let’s look at the piece that started this thread. It’s based on a talking head doing what a talking head does: that is, talk.

so they talk, we talk, it’s all good fun.

And sadly I must agree the benighted people of NYC will keep the Hildabeast in office for as long as she wishes.

Posted by: skip at July 8, 2004 10:22 AM

No problem with talking heads. No point disagreeing with them either.

More to the point is disagreeing with those who believe Their talking heads, but rant madly away against those who don’t.

Don’t be sad about the NYers who will re-elect Hillary. They get to do that — it’s their choice!

That’s how this Representative Democracy thing works. After all, they elected Alfonse d’Amato, and look what he’s saying of late.

Posted by: Don at July 8, 2004 10:32 AM

John Edwards will be a forgotten man in 2008 when Hillary runs. Assuming, of course, that Bush wins.

Posted by: DWC at July 8, 2004 11:29 AM

It’s interesting. My Mom a dyed in the wool thoughtless democrat really admires Hillary. My Mom thinks that Hillary’s got more chichibongas than most men.

There just is no changing a mind like that. So beyond snide comments about Hillary dressing like she’s got chichibongas, there’s not much to say.

One concern though, Does Hillary represent the tyranny of the city folk over the rural folk? Do the farmers of NY state really like Hillary or is her power the cities?

Posted by: skip at July 8, 2004 11:47 AM

skip, I lived in a small upstate town for five years and it was during that time that Hillary ran for the Senate. Obviously she drew votes from outside the greater metropolitan area, but the impression I had from the locals was that she was universally despised, almost a cipher for everything they didn’t like about life in general. I’ve never been crazy about her, but it really used to set me back to see the venom some people could come up with at the mention of her name.

It seems once you get into the Senate, you’re there for life, barring some extraordinary occurrence. I don’t think her presidential hopes are going to be well served by sitting this one out, though. There’s too much happening in the world and she just looks venal for not trying to help her party now.

Posted by: marymcl at July 8, 2004 12:09 PM

The Democratic Candidate for President in 2008 will be John Kerry of course as he will be the incumbant. Hillary needs to wait till 2012 if she wants a shot. Anyone who doesn’t think this election is a referendum on GW Bush and his sloppy administration is in D Nile. The Dems could run any non-descript candidate they like and win. Kerry just had the most coin.

Posted by: Wile1 at July 8, 2004 12:21 PM

Mary, that’s what I feared. The city’s tyranny over the more widely dispersed rural dwellers. It’s a shame too, as the cities for some reason seem much more to the left.

I’d be willing to bet that the rural folks of California feel the same way about thier senatorial delegation. Boxer and DiFi may play well on the left coast but I can imagine that the good folks of oh say stockton, have no use for these ladies.

Posted by: skip at July 8, 2004 01:56 PM

Skip -

In California, the divide is more along the lines of North v. South. Both Senators Boxer and Feinstein are very strong north of the Ventura/Santa Barbara area but not as strong in the southern part of the state. I don’t see much changing along those lines in the upcoming election.

If the Terminator is moderately successful as Governor, there might be a chance of a Republican Senator from Calif. in the future. But as of now, I have to agree with Marymcl, once you get into the exclusive Senate Club, you are usually there for a good long while.

Posted by: Jim at July 8, 2004 04:43 PM