How does one differentiate between a Suspected felon and an actual Felon?

Figure anyone actually checked the names on this list?

Figure that’s what the meeja might be trying to do?

I figure the list is probably inaccurate. We know the one four years ago was.

We don’t have to wait till election day to figure this one out. Perhaps this time around the meeja are doing their job?

Worth watching.

Posted by: Don at July 1, 2004 05:37 PM

Don,
I couldn’t agree more. If the media can prevent the unlawful disenfranchisement of one US citizen, it will be a job well done.

Then perhaps they will turn their minds to the 50 million or so Iraqis and Afghanees , who they have sought to disenfranchise through their reporting on the liberation of those two countries.

Posted by: max at July 2, 2004 08:38 AM

Typical democrats: be nice to felons day. They do sound like more like Saddam each day. Florida allowed 5,400 felons to vote in the 2000 election. I wonder who they voted for and how many times?

Posted by: Karen Mango at July 2, 2004 09:22 AM

Max: If you can find Even One instance where the meeja attempted to keep an Afghani or an Iraqi from voting, do post the Facts here, and we can discuss it. Thus far, I haven’t seen any — and I monitor such things pretty closely.

What you need to comprehend is that in the Middle East, there’s a powerful belief among many that Voting is Not a proper way to run a country. This idea that everyone there just Yearns for the American System of Politics is nonsense on its face.

KM: If FL law provides for felons Not to vote, that’s fine with me. No one is suggesting that they should.

What’s Wrong with FL’s past performance, in this regard, is its slipshod manner of coming up with proper identification. After all, if there were a felon with the same name as yours (hey — it happens) and you showed up At The Polls to vote, and were turned away because your name was on the list, and you couldn’t prove you were Not that person, what would your reaction be?

Note: Not all states have the same provision as FL. In many states, felons have their voting rights restored once they either are (a) released from prison or (b) finish their parole. It differs from state to state. The US Constitution provides for the several approaches to such matters.

Those folks are required to re-register in order to get their voting rights back.

It’s that old Rule of Law thing, KM! The Right is supposed to be all worked up about ensuring that happens. Is there some specific reason why it shouldn’t happen in Florida, according to its State laws as well?

The available research indicates that felons tend mostly Not to vote at all, even if registered. It’s just not something common to their social group.

White collar felons tend, ceteris paribus, to vote more than do the violent sorts (including the simple Theft) as befits the social class of white collar criminals.

And those, interestingly enough, tend to vote R — just as they did when they were formerly Respected Members of Their Community, good little churchgoers, bankers and Financial Planners, etc.

The black felons, a large and significant group, tend not to vote at all. Neither do the meth monkeys and other druggies — they are monitoring frequences the rest of the world can’t tune to.

The greatest single determinor of Voting behavior has been and remains — How Did Your Parents Vote? Do the regression analysis, and that accounts for over 50% of all voting behavior nationwide, in all classes, conditions and age cohorts.

If you want to discuss this sort of thing, first read the research that’s been floating around Out There.

No GOTV effort from Any political party targets former felons. It isn’t worth the bother. Too expensive for too low a return. There are other better demographic targets on which to focus.

Posted by: Don at July 2, 2004 01:14 PM

Max: If you can find Even One instance where the meeja attempted to keep an Afghani or an Iraqi from voting, do post the Facts here, and we can discuss it. Thus far, I haven’t seen any — and I monitor such things pretty closely.

What you need to comprehend is that in the Middle East, there’s a powerful belief among many that Voting is Not a proper way to run a country. This idea that everyone there just Yearns for the American System of Politics is nonsense on its face.

KM: If FL law provides for felons Not to vote, that’s fine with me. No one is suggesting that they should.

What’s Wrong with FL’s past performance, in this regard, is its slipshod manner of coming up with proper identification. After all, if there were a felon with the same name as yours (hey — it happens) and you showed up At The Polls to vote, and were turned away because your name was on the list, and you couldn’t prove you were Not that person, what would your reaction be?

Note: Not all states have the same provision as FL. In many states, felons have their voting rights restored once they either are (a) released from prison or (b) finish their parole. It differs from state to state. The US Constitution provides for the several approaches to such matters.

Those folks are required to re-register in order to get their voting rights back.

It’s that old Rule of Law thing, KM! The Right is supposed to be all worked up about ensuring that happens. Is there some specific reason why it shouldn’t happen in Florida, according to its State laws as well?

The available research indicates that felons tend mostly Not to vote at all, even if registered. It’s just not something common to their social group.

White collar felons tend, ceteris paribus, to vote more than do the violent sorts (including the simple Theft) as befits the social class of white collar criminals.

And those, interestingly enough, tend to vote R — just as they did when they were formerly Respected Members of Their Community, good little churchgoers, bankers and Financial Planners, etc.

The black felons, a large and significant group, tend not to vote at all. Neither do the meth monkeys and other druggies — they are monitoring frequences the rest of the world can’t tune to.

The greatest single determinor of Voting behavior has been and remains — How Did Your Parents Vote? Do the regression analysis, and that accounts for over 50% of all voting behavior nationwide, in all classes, conditions and age cohorts.

If you want to discuss this sort of thing, first read the research that’s been floating around Out There.

No GOTV effort from Any political party targets former felons. It isn’t worth the bother. Too expensive for too low a return. There are other better demographic targets on which to focus.

Posted by: Don at July 2, 2004 01:14 PM