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2004 US Presidential Election
June 25, 2004
| Fox: Bush 7 Points Ahead Of Kerry
A Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll finds that, in a three-way race with Ralph Nader, President Bush is now leading Sen. John Kerry by seven percent. In addition, Fox reports:
In the Rasmussen Reports daily polling, President Bush was a single point - 46 percent to 45 percent - ahead of Kerry in the horse race. Rasmussen has generally found the race neck-and-neck for much of the past two months. OpinionJournal.com’s running Electoral College Calculator shows Bush leading Kerry in the Electoral vote sweepstakes - 190 to 168 - with Electoral Votes from number of states too close to call. A candidate needs 270 Electoral Votes to win. Posted by latefinal at June 25, 2004 05:25 PM | TrackBack Comments
Please realize that the FOX poll was not conducted with the same standards of accuracy that most serious polls adhere to. For a serious state by state acedemic look at real data, go here http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/002014.html Posted by: Keith at June 25, 2004 06:13 PM Keith, There is absolutely nothing ‘Academic’ about your web site link which is blatantly pro Kerry. See this?: Posted by: Jeff MacMillan at June 25, 2004 06:56 PM And neither is “Fox News”, which is blatantly pro-Bush. Posted by: Lakhim at June 25, 2004 07:03 PM phew Finally a poll that says Bush is going to win, thus is worthy of posting on Command Post instead of any real news items. We hadnt seen a poll in a while, I was so missing them. We almost had something to talk about for a while there. Posted by: dave at June 25, 2004 07:10 PM FOX — six times during the Iraq invasion: “WMDs found in Iraq!” Posted by: Don at June 25, 2004 08:19 PM Actually, they have been found several times. Not even talking about the individual shells. Talking about the “special” barrels of “pesticides” stored in ammo dumps and underground bunkers. Posted by: eric at June 25, 2004 09:14 PM Wait, you mean like the standards of accuracy that the LA Times uses where they run polls that have 10% more democrats answering the poll than republicans and find Bush losing by 10%? You mean those polls ;) Posted by: Alex at June 25, 2004 09:22 PM 1) Just to set the record straight, all polls are either left wing biased or right wing biased. The true poll will tell it all in November. 2) I think when Michael Moore’s Ferenhiet 9/11 comes out there will be things come out that defend President Bush from this cheap shot that the Democrats are trying to pull. The differnece will be the a fictional movie verses reality! It is funny though for you poll followers President Bush has solid votes. Kerry is not a solid Democratic candidate. Most of his votes are from either your left winged liberals or people who are angry with President Bush. 5 months is a long time guys. Don’t be surprised when thing occurs that heal the anger that this forgiving society has toward President Bush. If I were a member of the Democratic party I would immediatly pencil in Tweety Bird on the ballot. He has about as good a chance at Kerry and he is much more trust worthy!!! Posted by: Amanda at June 25, 2004 09:26 PM Alex, Let’s face it, the only reason 10% more Democrats are answering the phone is because they get to stay at home and wait on their monthy Government check while more Republicans are at work making the money that gets redistributed. No wonder they don’t want tax cuts! Posted by: Amanda at June 25, 2004 09:32 PM The LA times is just…lets not go there. Even I don’t take it seriously. I wouldn’t trust a poll by any of the major news corporations, regardless of the source (Maybe MSNBC). Posted by: Lakhim at June 25, 2004 09:38 PM Fox had the two tied for a long period of time, and they would have to be pretty cynical to suggest that Bush is pulling ahead now if it weren’t true. I suggest very strongly that Kerry pick Dennis Kucinich as his running mate; at least he would get the space alien vote that way. Between ‘Teresa’ and Dennis American would rally to this liberal cause…. ha ha ha ha Yeah right! The election machine and true Americans will emerge at the Republican convention. It will be all down hill for Kerry from that point. And liberal Dems better hope like hell their fight against our national protection doesn’t result in a terror attack here, or they may feel the wrath of a backlash. Posted by: dickD at June 25, 2004 10:20 PM I wouldn’t put it past them. Posted by: Lakhim at June 25, 2004 11:03 PM This election, like most elections, will be decided by what happens in October. The current stuff is just straw in the wind. Posted by: ableiter at June 26, 2004 02:06 AM Not Bush is beating Bush. That is not the same as Kerry beating Bush. Just wait til Kerry starts campaigning again. His numbers will go down. And that is even before Bush starts running the “I was a Vietnam war criminal” Kerry ads. Posted by: M. Simon at June 26, 2004 04:16 AM ..seems the clintonnewsnetwork yesterday reported GW was ahead by a point ,sooo Posted by: Rob..NC at June 26, 2004 08:49 AM .”Let The Chips Fall Were They May”..you go GW.. now thats what we need a man with balls.. not a populaity contest..dont like it ((TOUGH)) its my job not yours so get over it…BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO…..thats going down in eternity… Posted by: Rob..NC at June 26, 2004 09:46 AM Bush has made too many bad decision in the past couple of years. Although every administration makes mistakes, Bush has made them on a consistent basis and he finds it impossible to admit his mistakes. It would be a shame if the people voted for him again. Someone else needs to be given a chance to lead America through these difficult times. Bush is not a leader, he follows his advisors and is loyal to them. He doesn’t have the will to hold anyone accountable for the poor planing and abuses that occured and continue to occure in Iraq and Afghanistan. He squandered the goodwill of the world community following the September 11th attacks on innocent civilians. Kerry is the only choice that the people have been given by the two parties that rule America with their corporate sponsors. Hopefully, he will be able to inch the country in the right direction again. Posted by: Dream at June 26, 2004 11:54 AM Keep dreaming, Dream. Posted by: eric at June 26, 2004 12:33 PM “He squandered the goodwill of the world community” Posted by: AngloAmerican at June 26, 2004 02:52 PM I’m sure the Romans/Greeks/Germans/Russians/French/English/Babalonians/Turks/Ottomans all said the same thing. Posted by: Lakhim at June 26, 2004 03:42 PM I wish they would quit including Nader in the polls. Now that the Greens have decided to quit funding Nader’s vanity campaigns, he’s not likely to make it onto too many state ballots. Despite this setback, I still think that things will break Bush’s way in regards to Iraq and the economy—-but SEVEN points? No one is going to win this thing by seven points unless, paraphrasing notorious LA Governor Edwin Edwards, one of the candidates gets caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy. :jackson Posted by: jackson zed at June 26, 2004 08:22 PM Dream you say that Would you please clarify these bad decision he has made consistently. Iraq? Is that what you mean. Just keep in mind that the President alone does not declare war but your congress has just as much say and can veto the Presidents decision. At the time He and our Legislatures decided to Invade Iraq, it was the right decision. Please enlighten me on the other bad decisions he has made because I refuse to watch biased news channels such as CNN so I am not exposed to their propaganda. And when listing the bad decisions that he has made please provide evidence that the allegations are true (Not through Kerry campaign adds either). The original book cover on Kerry’s book the New Soldier displayed Anti War protesters placing an American Flag upside down in an attempt to mock the Marine soldiers. YES, I said THE UNITED STATES FLAG!!! Upside down. Now tell me just where do you think the low life would lead this government. Oh I know he would probably move more of the Heinz corporations to North Vietnam. No, He would just move North Vietnam to us. Have you ever served your Country? What does democracy mean to you? What does the flag mean to you? What doe the soldiers dying to fight for your freedoms and liberties mean to you? We have come to far to hand our country to those who hate us the most and the true reality is they are only here to take our money and send it back to their country and people like you and Kerry help them accomplish that goal. Posted by: Amanda at June 26, 2004 08:45 PM Kerry is a dirt bag…bring back somebody we can trust…Bill Clinton…Yea! Posted by: Tinky WInky at June 26, 2004 10:04 PM So the flag was upside down…big deal. Most of the Viet Cong are here in the States anyway so that threat don’t cut it either…your just jeleous because your parked on you double wide while Nugan Phuc-Hue is toolling around town in his 90K Hummer and your still off to work in your AMC Gremlin…America is Great because guys like Kerry made it that way….want to know the truth…read Michale Moores books Amanda…Kerry in 2004 to take America back to where it should be Posted by: John Hart at June 26, 2004 10:12 PM Bad news for the left. Even if you add up all the polls it is still a break-even race, and Bush hasn’t even brought out the big guns yet. He is the sitting President. All he has to do is flex. A single speech on TV gives him a ten point surge in the polls. That’s when he’s delivering bad news. Oh there is going to be wailing and gnashing of teeth in November. Tearing off all the W keys and spray painting the walls of the White House will seem like child’s play when the full realization of another defeat sinks in for the left. I expect them to be out looting and burning. It’s only right. Greatness deserves recognition. Posted by: jeffers at June 27, 2004 12:45 AM “Kerry in 2004 to take America back to where it should be’ Ummm, and that would be a third-world level economy and a gutted military under the control of the UN? No, thanks. I’ll take an optimistic Presidential candidate over the pessimistic one any day. J. Posted by: JLawson at June 27, 2004 01:05 AM “America doesn’t need that crap good will from pox ridden countries” I liked this. Not only does it fail to recognise terrorist attacks are a manifestation of ill will, it fails to acknowledge the irony that the West was ‘won’, in part, through the deployment of smallpox versus Americans. Great post. Far superior to jeffers’ stumbling effort. I mean, the Drudge vandalism smear! I expect more from the bastard son of an unholy union between Pam Ayres and the Unabomber. Where’s the lyricism? Posted by: bananas at June 27, 2004 03:57 AM Holding the flag upsidedown isn’t an insult, it is a sign of distress. THE FLAG CODE § 176. Respect for flag: No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor. Posted by: Lakhim at June 27, 2004 11:46 AM John, Kerry’s book cover was intended to mock the United States Marine Corp. Now to you that may not be a big deal but to those of us who put that uniform on, we put it on with pride. We wear it honorably and we take much honor and pride in the flag and country that we defend EVERY DAY. You could not pay me a million dollars to read Michael Moore’s propaganda. I prefer education facts not liberal garbage. I believe that marriage is a union between a man and a woman, not to people of the same sex! I believe abortion is murder no matter how you look at it. I believe that a person should work hard and contribute to society rather be a burden on society. I believe we need to put prayer back in schools and remove the drugs. So I imagine Michael Moore’s garbage would bore me to death. And no, I am NOT jealous of anyone because I have to work! I signed the contract and took the oath to protect my country. I enjoy getting up in the mornings and putting the uniform on and defending my country. And for eight years of my 12 years of service I had a commander in chief that was not worthy to salute! Now, I can salute the one I have. I can follow his orders with much pride and I look forward to serving him another four years. I am looking forward to November, because I know by then Kerry will have convinced most people that he cannot be trusted in anything he says. Has he taken a position on any issue that he has not changed depending on his audience? Kerry is a worthless loser and as much as I disliked Clinton I would rather deal with him another 8 years opposed to one year of Kerry! Even your hero Michael Moore has his doubts about Kerry or did you not read that article? Needless to say I read it because I did not know who he was and wanted to know why so many people around me disliked him and after reading his article it was quiet clear to me why he is so disliked! GWB 2004!!! Posted by: Amanda at June 27, 2004 04:39 PM Looks as if the Democrats are coming around: Today, Santa Fe City Council Democrat David Pfeffer held a press conference to endorse President Bush over the nominee of his own party. Dozens of Bush-Cheney supporters turned out to support Councilor Pfeffer, who issued the following statement: “We are at war. The attacks on September 11, the killing of innocent civilians, the vicious hatred of America by the perpetrators, the danger of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of those who would do us great harm given half the chance - all demonstrate how much is at stake. “We need a decisive leader - someone with a clear understanding of our enemies’ intentions and with no illusions about the seriousness of our situation - leadership that doesn’t doubt itself or its orders or its ability to win - leadership that knows what it has to do and does it. “Luckily, Democrats, like me, have a decisive leader that we can support. It just happens that he is a Republican. “I will be voting in November to re-elect President Bush because I know he has no doubts about the value of keeping us free.” David was joined at the event by former Albuquerque City Council President Vickie Perea, a former Democrat elected official who switched parties recently to support President Bush. Vickie, a member of the campaign’s national Hispanic steering committee, introduced Councilor Pfeffer to the crowd. It was clear to all in attendance why hundreds of Democrats across the country believe President Bush is the right man at the right time to lead our country. Pfeffer pledged his support to the campaign, and when asked if he thought it would injure his future political endeavors in a city that is heavily Democratic, replied that winning New Mexico’s electoral votes for President Bush was far more important than any personal political ambition he might have. Councilor Pfeffer is a courageous New Mexican leader who is doing what he thinks is right for his community, his state, and his nation. We are proud to have him as part of our campaign here in New Mexico. Posted by: Amanda at June 27, 2004 05:00 PM Amanda- Again, the book cover was not an insult, but a signal of distress that our nation is in because of the leadership of President Bush. Posted by: Lakhim at June 27, 2004 05:26 PM Really, I did not realize that Bush was the president in 1971! Please try again. I suppose you can also justify why he prohibited the reprinting of this book as well! According to John O’Neill in the Wall Street Journal, Mr. Kerry has prohibited the reprinting of his book. ———————————————————————————————————————— The New Soldier was published by Collier / McMillan in 1971 and attributed to “John Kerry and the Vietnam Veterans Against the War.” The book’s cover shows VVAW members in a parody ( a feeble or ridiculous imitation) of the Iowa Jima flag-raising by the Marines!!! Do your research before you respond! Posted by: Amanda at June 27, 2004 05:54 PM If you want to know some truths about Kerry follow the link below: http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.php?topic=NewSoldier Posted by: Amanda at June 27, 2004 06:13 PM Lakhim, You may want to read on for a full education on Kerry. BY JOHN O‘NEILL HOUSTON—In 1971, I debated John Kerry, then a national spokesman for the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, for 90 minutes on “The Dick Cavett Show.” The key issue in that debate was Mr. Kerry’s claim that American troops were committing war crimes in Vietnam “on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command.” Now, as Sen. Kerry emerges as the presumptive Democratic nominee for the presidency, I’ve chosen to re-enter the fray. Like John Kerry, I served in Vietnam as a Swift Boat commander. Ironically, John Kerry and I served much of our time, a full 12 months in my case and a controversial four months in his, commanding the exact same six-man boat, PCF-94, which I took over after he requested early departure. Despite our shared experience, I still believe what I believed 33 years ago—that John Kerry slandered America’s military by inventing or repeating grossly exaggerated claims of atrocities and war crimes in order to advance his own political career as an antiwar activist. His misrepresentations played a significant role in creating the negative and false image of Vietnam vets that has persisted for over three decades. Neither I, nor any man I served with, ever committed any atrocity or war crime in Vietnam. The opposite was the truth. Rather than use excessive force, we suffered casualty after casualty because we chose to refrain from firing rather than risk injuring civilians. More than once, I saw friends die in areas we entered with loudspeakers rather than guns. John Kerry’s accusations then and now were an injustice that struck at the soul of anyone who served there. During my 1971 televised debate with John Kerry, I accused him of lying. I urged him to come forth with affidavits from the soldiers who had claimed to have committed or witnessed atrocities. To date no such affidavits have been filed. Recently, Sen. Kerry has attempted to reframe his comments as youthful or “over the top.” Yet always there has been a calculated coolness to the way he has sought to destroy the record of our honorable service in the interest of promoting his political ambitions of the moment. John Kennedy’s book, “Profiles in Courage,” and Dwight Eisenhower’s “Crusade in Europe” inspired generations. Not so John Kerry, who has suppressed his book, “The New Soldier,” prohibiting its reprinting. There is a clear reason for this. The book repeats John Kerry’s insults to the American military, beginning with its front-cover image of the American flag being carried upside down by a band of bearded renegades in uniform—a clear slap at the brave Marines in their combat gear who raised our flag at Iwo Jima. Allow me the reprint rights to your book, Sen. Kerry, and I will make sure copies of “The New Soldier” are available in bookstores throughout America. Posted by: hrlyridncpl at June 27, 2004 06:24 PM cough cough Replace “president Bush” with “vietnam war’ Posted by: Lakhim at June 27, 2004 09:09 PM Forget about polls. Take a look at Intrade: http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/contractSearch/ They have had Bush ahead consistently. People who are betting their hard-earned money are better predictors of how the election will go. Watch the online betting and online political futures market to get an accurate picture of the odds on the election. Posted by: Lexington Green at June 27, 2004 10:25 PM Lexington Green wrote, “People who are betting their hard-earned money are better predictors of how the election will go. “ 5 to 1 Las Vegas Betting Ods that this year the Los Angelas Lakers will beat the Detroit Pistons. Oops! Posted by: Jeff MacMillan at June 27, 2004 11:41 PM You know Kerry is a lost cause when Clinton looks good by comparison. Posted by: M. Simon at June 28, 2004 12:39 AM eric, Posted by: Delw at June 28, 2004 04:02 AM Jeff: Good point and one that shouldn’t be overlooked. However, basketball fans have no ability to affect the outcomes of basketball games. What if there had been a nationwide election for the NBA Championship? Who would have won? Posted by: murdoc at June 28, 2004 09:56 AM these polls ARE depressing. unfortunately, the public on the right is uninformed, and watches FOX. they’re laughing at you, the bush adminstration, thinking they can do ANYTHING shady….such as mislead us into war, claim terrorist attacks went down since 9/11 , then admitting they made errors in the report and they have actually gone up , oppose the homeland security department originally, oppose the 9/11 commision originally. gee, thats great at being better in the war on terror…the war on “terra”. oh, but he’s focused and decisive? what the….? what good is being decisive, if u make god awful decisions that are destroying this country? and people are so stupid to follow blindly…even at their own expense! it’s troubling. all these people making $45K trying to make ends meat, getting.. just killed….voting for bush. NEWS FLASH: bush is not for the little guys. don’t you see the record? the numbers? i guess y’all believe in the concept of the few over the many. i just hope u are one of the few. then i can rest knowing u are not idiots. these polls are depressing. . Posted by: Chex Post a comment
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