Flaky Al, Again! Thank God, he lost the election.

Posted by: leaddog2 at June 16, 2004 07:36 AM

I shudder to think where this nation would be had he been elected.

And by the way, Im getting really sick of all this “backdoor draft” nonsense IM hearing from the left. When you sign a contract with the US Military it specifically says that this may happen in times of conflict. Hell, Ive been out for two years and can name several buddies of mine who have been recalled to active duty. Does it suck? Yes. Did we sign up for it? Yes. A few of us are going to complain, but most will do their duty proudly and without protest.

Posted by: HullBreach at June 16, 2004 08:32 AM

…was listing to some talk radio show (S.H.) yesterday and a caller said that a HB 89 (if memory serves me correctly) was being floated,ya wana guess who was sponsoring it and co-authoring it …GUESS …

Posted by: Rob..NC at June 16, 2004 09:01 AM

Yes, I heard that It’s just a shame that in this time of war the politicians continue with the petty nonsense.

I want, of course, to blame the left for most of this pettiness, simply because I’m aware of things like this “draft” bill and other attempts to embarrass Bush and I am unaware of any republican “tricks”.

so if anybody’s heard of any, let us know.

As to Angry Al, I’m tending toward the “kerry surrogate” side of the equation. I think he’s saying what Kerry would like to but can’t.

I would be nice for Al to endorse Kerry, that would help the conservative cause quite a bit.

Posted by: skip at June 16, 2004 10:32 AM

If Al was half as smart as he thought He was he would be about as smart as my dog(He’s a really smart dog). Anyway, I’ve really gotta beleive all the shrill invective is just gonna turn moderate voters off. And, if Kerry can’t say what he beleives or want to say, WHY THE HELL WOULD WE WANT HIM FOR PRESIDENT.

chads

Posted by: chads at June 16, 2004 11:10 AM

Al was right, and it was nice to see him all hot n’ bothered. He was especially correct concerning the findings of the 9/11 commission, released today (http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/16/911.commission/index.html).

Posted by: Vince at June 16, 2004 11:44 AM

Soldiers enlist for 8 years. 4 active, 4 Inactive reserves. the 4 years of active can be extended in times of war, or soldiers can be recalled if needed. Its all in writing, in the contract. No back door draft, just more attempts to mislead the uninformed.

Posted by: chris at June 16, 2004 11:47 AM

At least Al Gore can win elections, he doesn’t need the Supreme Court to steal ‘em.

Posted by: Max at June 16, 2004 12:39 PM

Meaning that he can’t win elections, notwithstanding the help of his friends in the Florida Supreme Court. If only they could have thrown out a few more military votes, right?

Posted by: Mark Buehner at June 16, 2004 12:55 PM

Well Al muffed 2000 and seems determined to do the same for the Dems in 2004 even though he isn’t running. I mean, has Rove gotten to him or what? What can one say to such a spectacle?

A L , Y O U G O G I R L ! ! !

:jackson

Posted by: jackson zed at June 16, 2004 12:55 PM

Almost forgot:

(TWO SNAPS UP)

:jackson

Posted by: jackson zed at June 16, 2004 12:58 PM

At least Al Gore can win elections, he doesn’t need the Supreme Court to steal ‘em.

It’s funny, but I’ve never seen a Leftist actually debate the merits of the Florida Supreme Court’s action, nor acknowledge that the FLSC managed to throw out every single FL lower court ruling in the matter, almost all of which were issued by Democratic judges.

:jackson

Posted by: jackson zed at June 16, 2004 01:13 PM

Why would we want Al Gore as president?
Oh thats right:
9/11
Iraq
Torture
Deficits
Job Losses
Allies

Posted by: Loofa at June 16, 2004 01:24 PM

Ah yes, the much vaunted allies. Foola, have you seen the election results from the Euronals?

Schroeder took a big whacking and why? Ummmm, let’s see: the economy is faltering, they’ve managed to alienate the US and the Euronal’s new constitution sucks. Now there’s an ally worth giving up our principles for, right?

Are you saying Foola, that if Gore was in office Al Q would NOT have attacked? Based on what? Al’s forceful personality? Or was Al gonna put the WTC in a lockbox?

Job losses are another piece of total leftish bologna. The economy was faltering during the last presidential election. As I’m sure you can recall the democrats in the senate chided Bush for “talking down” the economy. Well come to find out he wasn’t talking it down, he was telling the truth.

And, BTW Afool, looked at the economic picture lately? You think Alan Greenspan’s talking about inflation because the economy’s tankin? You need to read economics for dummies and soon.

Now, deficits. Leave me go on record now: I don’t give a frosty crank about deficits. And neither do you. If you really cared about deficits you’d do two things: ask your congressperson to stop spending and send your disposable income to the IRS.

When a liberal uses the word “deficit” what they really mean is “tax cut”. You don’t even have the nerve to say it out loud. You and your friends are appalled that Bush cut taxes. Imagine letting people spend their own money? What’s next? choosing our own schools?

Torture: who got tortured? If you think Abu Grahb was torture you need to spend an evening in a NYC precinct house, or better yet watch the film of Sadam’s thugs warming up for the plastic shredder olympics.

And of course Al wouldn’t lift a finger to fight the terrorists. With Al we would have gotten another four years of do nothing, wring our hands and maybe send a few cruise missles but only if France thinks it’s ok.

Loofa, your name is not a palindrome but spelling it backwards seems more apt, based on posts like this.

OK? Now back to your survey of Women as victim’s class at the community college.

Posted by: skip at June 16, 2004 01:55 PM

Did Al have anything to say about his endorsement
of Howard Dean? How’d that work out for you,
buddy?

At least Bill Bradley, Martin Sheen, and Rob Reiner
had the sense to clam up after their boy imploded.

Posted by: King of Mars at June 16, 2004 02:40 PM

So is Al going to hold the Demos to the pre-election political masterplan of advocating that the draft be reinstated, as he snidely implies?

Or is he just going for yet another Demo cheap shot without any proposals of policy whatsoever?

Correct.

Posted by: RufusLeeKing at June 16, 2004 04:01 PM

SKIP
YOU THE MAN!!!!!

I love it

loofa spelled backwards

good stuff

you forgot Allies - France hasn’t been one for 228 years and only then to stick it to the British

Job Loss - Check how many new jobs were created in the last several months

Posted by: Jay - MN at June 16, 2004 05:18 PM

I thought a Loofa was something you used to scrub your backside…

Way to go, SKIP!

Posted by: Cap'n DOC at June 16, 2004 05:36 PM

Wow skip, you da man. Except for your aversion to simple math.

While your ‘translatting’ what I say into a simple language even republicans can understand, why dont you tell us what gets cut when ‘people get to spend their own money’?

Oh and I loved your childish name calling of the Euronals.. almost as much as the effet based reasoning: ‘the europeans failure to do what we tell them to becouse we tried bossing them around, proactively justifies our trying to bossing them around and having a childish fit in the first place.’

And Gore would have taken the 9/11 threat seriously. Oh and what did President AWOL do? First he did nothing. Then he ‘stayed the course’. Oh and what did he do when the planes started going into the buildings- he was reading a childes book- so again he stayed the course.

But hey none of this really matters becouse that whole Deficit thing is really to abstract a concept to get through to a person of your limited intellectual capacity.

Posted by: Loofa at June 16, 2004 05:56 PM

I wonder what they called it when the WWII vets got called back to serve in the Korean War? Oh, that would be totally different. We had a Democratic President in those days. God bless him, HST was a great president. I wonder what he’d think of John Kerry?

Posted by: jane m at June 16, 2004 05:57 PM

Loofa The name is BUSH, not AWOL…

“Oh and I loved your childish name calling…” Posted by Loofa at June 16, 2004 05:56 PM

Cripes. Do you take yourself seriously???

I certainly don’t.

Posted by: Cap'n DOC at June 16, 2004 06:42 PM

Hey LOOFA,

I think Al Gore (and his pal the intern banger)
had 8 years of chances to take the al Qaeda
threat seriously. What did they do?

Posted by: King of Mars at June 16, 2004 06:55 PM

We get “backdoor draft” from a guy who oversaw the decommissioning of 8 army divisions and 2 reserve army divisions (709,000 and 293,000 troops, respectively) and called it “Smaller Government”.

I kid you not. They cut the military for 8 years and that was their SMALLER GOVERNMENT. They grew the bureaucracy, but cut defense. Remember that the next time the democrats whine about ‘re-building the military’ (a la Kerry).

Scrub brush - What gets cut when people get to spend their own money? A $2.1 Trillion budget, that’s what? Oh, but every cent is needed, right? There’s no waste at the federal level, is there?

Here’s a new concept for you: cutting the deficit by cutting government spending. Didn’t mention the word ‘taxes’, did I? Print this off and study it, discuss it with your friends.

jane m: HST would have kicked Kerry’s ass.

Max: Al wouldn’t have needed the Florida Supreme Court to “Daley” the election if he had bothered to win Tennessee. But his own state rejected him.

He’s a real piece of work. And he’s starting to spit more during his speeches. It’s a good look.

Posted by: torpedo_eight at June 16, 2004 07:53 PM

Al Bore, what a maroon! Him and Bubba never had a real job in their whole lives. Those are the kind of amoral leeches I want running this country. Yeah, right!

It makes me cringe when I think how close we came to having that gasbag as CIC, thanks to the illegal actions of the FL supreme court. Changing election laws retroactively because you don’t like the results, they should lose their jobs for crap like that.

Posted by: Elvis at June 16, 2004 08:17 PM

So so far Bush’s policies have caused a loss of 2 million instead of 3 million jobs, thanks to the 1 million created the past year. While during Clinton 22 million jobs were created. Yep Bush has a lot to be proud of, I guess.

Posted by: Dream at June 17, 2004 12:07 AM

Skip 100 ….Afool 0……and he questions your ‘limited intellectual capacity” within sentences of him spelling ‘EFFETE’ incorrectly! ha ha Just like a liberal…. When talking of Al Gore, does everybody have the same image as me? I always see that video of Al wandering in the Jefferson Memorial, and asking the guide who the ‘bust’ was!! It was JEFFERSON mr screech, I mean Mr Al. That boy has lost it, and time to go …I was once behind him in line at an airport store in Memphis (his skinny days in 1984)…that boy bought 2 packs of Juicy Fruit, and I watched him put down his brief case and put all 10 pieces in his mouth!! Now, I know why he’s got the big mouth anyway!!

Posted by: dickD at June 17, 2004 12:53 AM

At least Al Gore can win elections, he doesn’t need the Supreme Court to steal ‘em.

Posted by: Max at June 16, 2004 12:39 PM
******************************************
Want to overthrow the Constitution do we?

TSK TSK too bad there are not enough revolutionaries on your side.

PS guess which side has most of the guns? ;-)

You really DON“T want to start talking about “Come the Revolution” Max, your side of the baricades will get mowed down.

Be nice to think of Michael Moore going down too. ;-)

Posted by: Dan Kauffman at June 17, 2004 02:02 AM

Regarding Gore, Carville had this to say:

You know back in 2000, a Republican friend of mine warned me that if I voted for Al Gore and he won, the stock market would tank, we’d lose millions of jobs, and our military would be totally overstretched. You know what? I did vote for Al Gore, he did win, and I’ll be damned if all those things didn’t come true.

:)
ok, ep2k

Posted by: elvispresley2k at June 17, 2004 09:39 AM

Isn’t it amazing how the left demanded that we “move on” about Bubbah’s pecadillo, but they temselves can’t get past the 200 election?

Hey, lefties: take your own advice and moveon dot org. OK? Just rest it.

And elvis, you’ve got your chance again, Ain’t American wonderful? You can vote for Kerry this time around. And if he wins, as in get inaugurated or whatever you can gloat till the cows come home.

In the interim, get over it, Bush is president and all the childishness you can muster won’t change that fact.

Posted by: skip at June 17, 2004 09:56 AM

Max,

If you’ll remember - he tried to use the Fla Supreme Court to steal it.

The US Supreme Court kept Crazy Al from stealing the election.

Posted by: Joel Gaines at June 17, 2004 10:16 AM

I’m surprised Carville can FIND a job, much less keep one…

Posted by: Cap'n DOC at June 17, 2004 03:05 PM

Speaking as a moderate liberal who generally votes Democrat….

Al Gore needs to go away. He needs to retire to his (what I am sure is actually really nice) home with Tipper and stay there. Your time is past.

One point of clarification about the whole Army “you signed the paper” comments. That is true, enlistment paperwork for all military contracts states they can be involuntarily extended for two years past hostilities of a major conflict.

I agree that that is the letter of the contract. However, it doesn’t take a military genius to see that the current Reserve system is at worst broken and at best poorly organized. The military was trimmed by putting large percentages of critical fields in the Reserves. Over 70% of the Army’s medical corp, 90% of civil affairs and similar percentages of other combat support and service support fields are in the Reserves. This means that many units and personnel serve far more time than the envisioned “18 months every 6 years” that the Reserve component was designed for and most Reservists expected.

Is it legally authorized for the government to activate Reserve troops for more than two consecutive years (like in the case of many military police units post-9/1)? Yes, but the same units shouldn’t need to be called up over and over. Either more active duty or more Reserve units could spread the load.

Re-balancing the mix of active, reserve and NG forces needs to be undertaken. In addition, extending more benefits to Reservists and NGs to broaden job protection and other financial hardships will ensure we maintain quality people.

Even without being activated, rarely is reserve service “two days a month, two weeks a year”. We really do wear two hats in society and deserve a thorough examination of complaints before people rebut our complaints with, “You signed the paperwork.”

Posted by: nadwom at June 17, 2004 03:27 PM

I realize he is talking about stop-loss, not Reserve activations.

But I haven’t heard much in the way of complaining from the troops themselves regarding that as much as the Reserve thing.

Stop-loss, while inconvenient, is much more understandable in terms of keeping units and specialty fields viable during high operational tempos. It can be over-used, though I am not too sure it has reached that pint yet.

Just my two cents.

Posted by: nadwom at June 17, 2004 03:31 PM

Al Gore needs to put the nations needs ahead of his ego’s needs.

I am greatly concerned about his, Kerry’s, …Dean’s irresponsible and reckless rhetoric. There is a way to communicate a difference of oppinion without aggitating people to anger; however, we know this is exactly what is going on. Next step of a public mass being angry and aggitated can be seen in seens from the history LA, SanFrancisco, Chicago, NewYork as expressed in complete disregard for anyone or anything in the form of riots. Many of these happened before I was born but the afteraffects are still going on today.

I want politicians who can present themselves and there divergent oppinions with clarity and respect.

Posted by: riot watch at June 18, 2004 09:36 AM

I have to agree with Gores comments. His comments were not politically driven but totally on the contrary. What the administration is doing is a “Backdoor Draft”. If you ask any Veteran from any war. They will tell you that when their time was done they felt relieved. To go from a high of being relieved that you are going home in one piece - to being told a few days before that you are staying is a total let down. And it is at this time that you are not as focused as before, that you can get injured or killed. If you think differently go to battle and then voice your opinion. Unlike Bush who’s father got him out of going to Nam.

Also when was the last time Bush mentioned anything about the economy. Never - because his plan backfired. The rule of thumb is War = Better Economy. Well he waged 2 wars and the economy is worst than when is father was in office. I saw a bumper sticker Another Bush - Another Recession. I think that says it all.

Posted by: CrashCorr at June 21, 2004 02:14 PM

There are 2 words that state why Gore lost the State of Florida. JEB BUSH.

Posted by: CrashCorr at June 21, 2004 02:23 PM