There is a commentor (who will remain nameless) on another thread who claims that the Dr. Letson who says he treated Senator Kerry for a superficial and insignificant wouln, is not the same person who signed the ‘sick call sheet’. Since Senator Kerry has not released the medical records related to the first Purple Heart, I am curious how a commentor (who will remain nameless) could assert that the signor and Dr. Letson are not one and the same without some inside information. I have tried to explain that Dr. Letson might have examined him, and another Doctor (or even a Senior Hospital Corpsman) could have signed him out of Sick Bay. Could I bother you to look into that?

Posted by: Cap'n DOC at May 10, 2004 04:34 PM

Ahh h campaigns in the electronic age. If you speak it into a microphone there’s a good chance it’s recorded somewhere.

Oh man this has got to bite the good Senator in the bodunkas. I’m wondering how the campaign spinmeisters are dealing with this situation. I mean what can you say?

The other thing that I find particulary distasteful about all this is that we are just now, as a nation dealing with the hard feelings and antimosities that developed over Viet Nam. Along comes this guy and opens this wound one more time.

I think the viet nam service is a non starter for the Kerry campaign.

Posted by: skip at May 10, 2004 05:15 PM

You’d like that. Thankfully, the Dems will hammer his service until November - over and over and over again. Then Kerry will win.

Posted by: Bush blows at May 10, 2004 05:32 PM

I just don’t see how harping on Kerry’s vietnam record helps him in this campaign.

The response to the Dems pounding on Kerry’s record in the war will be the Bush team pounding on his record since then.

It’s not a pretty sight, seeing him squirm around the tough questions like: Medals or ribbons? Before or after? Private jet or SUV?

Frankly the last thing america needs in a Massachussets liberal and it seems clear to me that’s Kerry in nutshell.

Let him articulate his positions, let’s watch him explain to the public how things would be different with a Massachusetts liberal in the oval office.

Posted by: skip at May 10, 2004 05:38 PM

Newsflash: Bush’s ratings are at the lowest point in his entire presidency.

Posted by: x at May 10, 2004 05:46 PM

Now you know why Kerry is not real vocal about the Abu Ghraib prison abuse matter. Why he reserves his only call for Rumsfeld’s resignation and to bang the drum for campaign donations.

Posted by: Mike Wiley at May 10, 2004 05:51 PM

True x,

and Kerry still can’t pull ahead.

Posted by: Jeff at May 10, 2004 07:40 PM

Actually the situation then as now seems to have a lot of similarities. American troops were given orders that were illegal and a violation of the rules of war, the geneva convention and who knows what else. They were given these orders by their higher command that put our troops in this crappy position.
Clearly what we need is someone who’se been at the recieving end of these f-cked orders, so they will be that much more likely to issue moral and legal orders- someone like John Kerry.

I liked Fareed Zakaria’s take on it: “On almost every issue involving postwar Iraq—troop strength, international support, the credibility of exiles, de-Baathification, handling Ayatollah Ali Sistani—Washington’s assumptions and policies have been wrong. By now most have been reversed, often too late to have much effect. This strange combination of arrogance and incompetence has not only destroyed the hopes for a new Iraq. It has had the much broader effect of turning the United States into an international outlaw in the eyes of much of the world.”

Posted by: typhonus at May 10, 2004 07:51 PM

Typhonus - capn doc - more evidence that your a scum sucking piece of shit. Posted by typhonus at May 9, 2004 02:59 PM

Retract AND apologize. GOT IT?

Posted by Cap’n DOC at May 10, 2004 07:30 AM

Posted by Cap’n DOC at May 10, 2004 02:31 PM

Posted by: Cap'n DOC at May 10, 2004 08:08 PM

That’s “you are” a scum-sucking piece of shit.
Not “your” a …………

Posted by: Loren at May 10, 2004 08:42 PM

…and Kerry said: “the same letter of the law that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals”

Wasn’t Calley just following orders? If so, Kerry’s admissions are also an admission he is a war crimminal.

But wait, following orders was not a valid defence against Nazis who created atrocities, but it is for his majesty king Kerry. Hmm, just having a little trouble following the flim flam from this french loving POS.

Posted by: Derek at May 10, 2004 09:38 PM

The complete transcript of the John O’neil v. John Kerry Debate, an ABC Special of the Dick Cavette Show, 6/30/1971, is now available at:

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040503214623700

I remember watching this, as a young man, after discharge from the Navy.

O’Neil OWNS Kerry over the war criminals issue, and repeatedly makes Kerry look like a total loser, especially over the issue as to weather there will be a bloodbath in Vietnam after American troops leave. After reading the transcript you will note that history has proven O’neil correct and Kerry, not only a liar but also a fool.

Posted by: ET at May 10, 2004 11:23 PM

CAPT. YOU NEED A SHOWER,you know the line you get in bed with dogs you get fleas,well you have done worse;please take the high road,good will defeat evil..kill them with kindness,cussing and swearing they understand,compassion and understanging is beyond their grasp..lol…BUSH..04

Posted by: Rob..NC at May 11, 2004 08:35 AM

Cap.: sorry your a scum sucking piece of shit. If your not busy, Im sure you can start walking down to the nearest military base, find a man wearing a uniform and accuse him of not earning the medals he’s wearing. make it a full time hobby. go back to your trolling.

Posted by: typhonus at May 11, 2004 09:56 AM

Cap- or you can go back to your regularly scheduled name calling.

Posted by: typhonus at May 11, 2004 09:58 AM

Typhonus - capn doc - more evidence that your a scum sucking piece of shit. Posted by typhonus at May 9, 2004 02:59 PM

Retract AND apologize. GOT IT?
Posted by Cap’n DOC at May 10, 2004 07:30 AM
Posted by Cap’n DOC at May 10, 2004 02:31 PM
Posted by Cap’n DOC at May 10, 2004 08:08 PM

Posted by: Cap'n DOC at May 11, 2004 10:03 AM

Typhonus,

Do you want the names, addresses, former ranks and current political affiliation of the American Legion and Veterans of Foreign Wars members who are TOTALLY DISGUSTED with John Kerry’s Senate testimony and subsequent actions?

To my personal knowledge, three of them are Medal of Honor recepients.

The list is growing! I would NOT BE at all SURPRISED if it grows to HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS.

You OWE Doc (a decorated veteran) an apology, but it is probably beyond your maturity level.

You need to shut your mouth. You HAVE NEVER SERVED in the military and it is very obvious.

(Actually, I have NOT SEEN any evidence YET, that you have any intelligence at all either, but that is a subject for a later time).

Posted by: leaddog2 at May 11, 2004 10:28 AM

Well the tone and tenor of this thread has descended rapidly into the abyss.

Anybody who would like to hear Kerry accuse every member of the military can simply visit Rush’s site and click on the pic of Kerry. he has the actual tape linked right there.

bottom line: he said it, he meant it and he hasn’t repudiated it.

The democrats are about to nominate this guy and his opponent will hammer on this stuff relentlessly.

As for the much vaunted opinion of Zakaria, what makes him think most of us care about the opinions of the “rest of the world”. We know how they behaved when the time came to stand up and be counted. Why should we lose a moments sleep over the opinions of treacherous cowards like France and Germany?

And as for the Arabs, is it possible for them to hate us more? I don’t think so. So the heck with what they think to. We need to stay the course and do the right thing. Small minds like Zakaria and the person here who quoted him are just so much noise to be tuned out.

Posted by: skip at May 11, 2004 10:33 AM

If president Bush was proven to have done 1/16th of the stuff King John F**G Kerry has done then I wouldn’t vote for Bush this election.

President Bush served honorably in the Air Texas Guard and made absolutely no complaints or badmouthing or whining or cry babying about it.

John Kerry is nothing more than a dishonorable, cry baby… But, then again… He fits the image of every single Liberal in America that I have ever known in my entire life. Nothing changes with Liberals. They badmouth our military and badmouth America while wearing, ‘Patriot,’ t-shirts.

Posted by: Jeff MacMillan at May 11, 2004 11:18 AM

“Skip” wrote:

“Why should we lose a moments sleep over the opinions of treacherous cowards like France and Germany?
And as for the Arabs, is it possible for them to hate us more? I don’t think so. So the heck with what they think to.”

It’s this kind of simplistic thinking and generalization that will cost us. America needs friends, America needs allies. Not yes-men. Friends and allies.

Posted by: VoR at May 11, 2004 01:46 PM

“Skip” wrote:

“Why should we lose a moments sleep over the opinions of treacherous cowards like France and Germany?
And as for the Arabs, is it possible for them to hate us more? I don’t think so. So the heck with what they think to.”

It’s this kind of simplistic thinking and generalization that will cost us. America needs friends, America needs allies. Not yes-men. Friends and allies.

Posted by: VoR at May 11, 2004 01:47 PM

“Skip” wrote:

“Why should we lose a moments sleep over the opinions of treacherous cowards like France and Germany?
And as for the Arabs, is it possible for them to hate us more? I don’t think so. So the heck with what they think to.”

It’s this kind of simplistic thinking and generalization that will cost us. America needs friends, America needs allies. Not yes-men. Friends and allies.

Posted by: VoR at May 11, 2004 01:51 PM

“Skip” wrote:

“Why should we lose a moments sleep over the opinions of treacherous cowards like France and Germany?
And as for the Arabs, is it possible for them to hate us more? I don’t think so. So the heck with what they think to.”

It’s this kind of simplistic thinking and generalization that will cost us.

America needs friends, America needs allies. Not yes-men. Friends and allies.

Posted by: VoR at May 11, 2004 02:12 PM

Yeah VoR, we need friends and allies, not opportunists who stab us in the back. That is why we don’t need France, Germany and Russia. Rather then helping, they have harmed us. France’s veto and support of Saddam forced us to go the military route. Had they put pressure on him instead of taking his money, we might not have had to go to war.

Posted by: Brian at May 11, 2004 03:02 PM

Well, what’s the point VoR?

I’m not quite sure I understand what you’re trying to say here.

My position is quite clear and please don’t confuse clarity and brevity with simplicity. The French, Germans and Russians had their say. They said NO. So we’re done talking now. And we’re done listening as well.

As UNSCAM unfolds the real motivations become clear, the European habit of placing short term gain ahead of long term results has again reared it’s ugly head.

We don’t need these people. They cannot help us with men or material and they will not lend moral support to what many of us thing is a fight for civilization. So ignoring them is simply a way to reduce the amount of background noise we must filter out.

Simple enough?

As to the Arabs, and by extension Islam, they’ve also made themselves perfectly clear. if the anger is already so intense why should we concern ourselves with stirring up additional angst? It’s like a summer day in Phoenix, 105, 110, so what it’s just plain hot.

Further, a glance at MEMRI clearly shows how distorted the Arab media is. Their religious leaders routinely call for killing us or enslaving us or generally abusing us. It’s OK to do this apparently just ask your local Ayatollah. So tell me once again, why should we concern ourselves with these people?

To win the “hearts and minds” the target audience has to have one and be willing to use the other. I don’t see that happening anytime soon in the Arab street.

Simple enough VoR?

Posted by: skip at May 11, 2004 04:40 PM

The left supports this admitted war criminal, no matter what you think of BUSH…..that is quite sickening.

Posted by: Jim at May 14, 2004 07:38 PM