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2004 US Presidential Election
March 07, 2004
| Kerry Looking to Send His Own Team to Iraq

Time:

Senator John Kerry tells TIME that he “almost certainly” will send a team to Iraq “within the next few weeks or months” to help him formulate his Iraq policy positions. “I may ask some Democratic colleagues and experts to go to Iraq and make this assessment so I have a strong basis on which to proceed,” he tells TIME’s Perry Bacon, Lisa Beyer and Karen Tumulty on his campaign plane from Washington, DC to Florida last week. He mentions Senate colleague Joseph Biden, chief campaign foreign policy adviser Rand Beers and longtime Kerry Senate aide Nancy Stetson. But, says White House communications director Dan Bartlett, Kerry’s “mission to finally understand what is happening in Iraq reveals once again that (his) attacks are based on politics, not facts.”

Whatever approach he embraces will have a better chance of success, Kerry argues, because he knows how to play well with others..”



Posted by Michele at March 7, 2004 12:29 PM | TrackBack
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well sure he does, he’s an internationalist liberal by his own admittance.

he’ll give away the farm to make the rest of the greedy socialist fellow travelers in europe happy.

hell push socialism to the next logical conclusion, americans are more rich than anyone else by any standard thus we should be penalized by having wealth shipped off to agreaved nations around the globe, and our prosperity will be hamstrung so the crap nations around the globe feel better about themselves…….

but this will surly stop global terrorism because we were at fault for it anyway.

and heck even if there is some after that we will send cops off with arrest warrants……

that out to take care of the problem, seeing as we are the new america run by the new president with an international flair.

Posted by: rumcrook at March 7, 2004 12:50 PM

Kerry is sounding like one of those people that just assumes he’s elected and begins acting like it even though he has no authority to. I notice that from multiple sources he’s talking like he’s already president, which is scary, cuz there’s an important intermediate step that he may be starting to forget.

I knew a whacko-kook female one time that assumed she was my girlfriend, just started acting like it, always showed up to do this and that “together”. I tried politely to “get rid of her”, like telling her nicely we were not GF/BF and she’d get all very weird on me. It was a real scary experience.

Kerry is acting like she did.

Max

Posted by: Max Darkside at March 7, 2004 01:22 PM

So,

Kerry needs to send a team of experts to find an Iraq policy? Why then has he been condemning that of the President for so long?

Why not just do an Eisenhower — “I will go to Iraq…”

I have heard only one Democrat demonstrate an understanding about the state of the world — Joe Lieberman. There is little point arguing trivial domestic matters until we are assured there will BE a domestic matter about which to argue.

For this reason alone, Democrats deserve to lose big in November. They may not get what they deserve, to everybody’s detriment, but they deserve it nonetheless.

MG

Posted by: MG at March 7, 2004 01:38 PM

“Whatever approach he embraces will have a better chance of success, Kerry argues, because he knows how to play well with others..”

And his outstanding interpersonal collaboration skills are exemplified in his record of spearheading complex and challenging bills through the Senate such as, um, …

crickets chirping

Posted by: Max Darkside at March 7, 2004 01:53 PM

“almost certainly”, “within the next few weeks or months”

Why so specific? A simple “I don’t know, I’ve never thought about it” would suffice.

Posted by: Hing at March 7, 2004 02:59 PM

“For those who want to wield those weapons, we have a place for them. It is the U.S. military. And we welcome them. “
— John Kerry during the “Assault Weapons” Ban debate

“Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA — ordinary citizens don’t need guns, as their having guns doesn’t serve the state.”
— Heinrich Himmler, during WWII

Hat tip to Raging_Dave (http://4rwws.blogspot.com/)

Posted by: Max Darkside at March 7, 2004 03:04 PM

Doesn’t quite have the grit to go himself, eh?

Telling…

Posted by: jeffers at March 7, 2004 03:58 PM

I think the writer meant to say “The Whatever approach he embraces…”

Posted by: jost at March 7, 2004 04:00 PM

” “I may ask some Democratic colleagues and experts to go to Iraq and make this assessment so I have a strong basis on which to proceed,” “

Oh sure you do. You have absolutely NO freaken clue what in the world is going on even though you belly ache and protest the crap out of it.

So you’ll send your team down there to come back with whatever Terrorist Butt Kissing, strung up together on a string of beads, philosophy you can scrounge up. Then you’ll present it to a drove of cheering liberals who honestly couldn’t even care that you bothered to send in experts in the first place. Any thing you say that is not what Bush says is all that is needed to get votes from a Liberal.

Posted by: Jeff MacMillan at March 7, 2004 07:00 PM

//Whatever approach he embraces will have a better chance of success, Kerry argues, because he knows how to play well with others, TIME’s Nancy Gibbs reports.//

And herein lies the problem: to left-liberals like Kerry, this is all “play” because everyone knows we can just bullshit our way out of anything. We just go over there and say something fabulous and all the happy little brown people will nod their heads in excited agreement.

Later in the piece Kerry says “..And I refuse ever to accept the notion that anything I’ve suggested with respect to Iraq was nuanced. It was clear. It was precise. It was, in fact, prescient. It was ahead of the curve about what the difficulties were. And that is precisely what a President is supposed to be. I think I was right, 100% correct, about how you should have done Iraq.”

But then he doesn’t explain why, if he’s “100% right,” he needs to send anyone to Iraq in the first place.

:jackson

Posted by: jackson zed at March 7, 2004 07:05 PM

here’s a telling letter from town hall:

Dear Mr. Kerry;

After spending only four months in the country of Vietnam, you testified before Congress in 1971 with these exact words about incidents you say you witnessed: “They personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blew up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Viet Nam.”

Spread that on a farmer’s field where it will do some good. I spent a year there in 1968-69 in a combat arms unit. I was a Field Artillery Forward Observer in an Infantry company and I saw combat every day until I was wounded. When I returned from the hospital, I was assigned to an artillery battery. I saw brave men fight and die; I saw brave, good men pass out all their rations to hungry kids, build churches and schools, donate to orphanages, cry silently at the sight of villagers slaughtered by North Vietnamese, but I never saw anything approaching the war crimes that you happened to witness as your boat sped by villages on the river bank. If you witnessed atrocities and did not report them, you are guilty of aiding and abetting. If you lied, you are simply unfit for leadership at any level. The most serious incident I witnessed was a young sergeant who grabbed the arm of a Vietnamese woman during a village search. An older, more experienced noncommissioned officer knocked the sergeant to the ground and told him, somewhat forcefully, that that woman was someone’s mother and would be treated with respect. That’s it, Kerry, that’s my confession - I didn’t report the incident.

I have children, and my children have children. They will, perhaps, stumble upon your words, much as one might stumble upon a pile of dog droppings. I do not relish the thought of having to explain that your “experiences” are either a bald-faced lie, or you belong to that less-than-1% of Viet Nam veterans who committed war crimes/atrocities. Either way, your words do great harm to the institution of the Senate, my home state of Massachusetts, the Armed Services in which I proudly served for 27 years, and the very country that you aspire to lead.

Is it true that you single-handedly prevented a vote on a Senate version of H.R. 2833, the Viet Nam Human Rights Act of 2001 - a bill that passed the House by a vote of 410-1? There are many who believe that our failure to speak decisively on that issue cost the lives of thousands of Montagnard tribesman in Viet Nam. Where do you stand on H.R. 1587, the Viet Nam Human Rights Act of 2003? Will you support a parallel bill in the Senate? Is it true that you served as Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on MIA/POW Affairs and in that role you fought hard to limit the expenditure of funds to investigate sightings or search for remains? You have, I believe, been a steadfast, staunch and vocal advocate for normalizing relations with Viet Nam. Could it be that your beloved first cousin, Mr. Forbes, CEO of Colliers International, recently signed a contract with Hanoi worth billions of dollars? Any truth to the rumor that you didn’t really fling your “hard-earned” military medals over the White House fence in a juvenile fit of pique as you say you did, but rather, you threw your roommate’s medals instead?

I know dozens of retired military professionals. None of them support you - there is a reason for that. They all served honorably and well, and they all believe that you did not. I know war heroes, and your, sir, are no war hero.

— Glenn Lackey

Posted by: Fat Guy at March 7, 2004 07:44 PM

Who’s paying for this “team” anyways? Is it lawfull?
Why doesn’t kerry go?
Is he a coward?

Posted by: Fat Guy at March 7, 2004 08:47 PM

For Glenn —— Amen! These are facts known
to all honest veterans. I TOTALLY agree with
you.

However, be prepared to be cursed and insulted
by raving lunatics like Tony Foresta and his
kind.

They cannot accept that NO patriotic American
veteran will support Hanoi John.

Posted by: leaddog2 at March 7, 2004 09:19 PM

This Glenn Lackey raises an important point, either Kerry testified to eye-witnessed accounts of attrocities (a boatload considering his 120 day in-country) and never reported them, being himself complicit to war crimes - or he was parrotting charges his buddies in FTA told him to repeat - in which case he’s repeating heresay and perjures himself.

Which one is it, John? Uncharged war criminal or perjury?

Go see what Grandpa Munster is doing. Make him your veep. Tour the country with bolts in your neck. Then I’ll vote for you.

Posted by: torpedo_eight at March 7, 2004 09:24 PM

I think Glenn Lackey hits on a lot of things that have REALLY bothered me about Hanoi John. I was just getting out of high school when the war ended. Since then, I have respected, admired, and become close friends of many Vietnam (and other wars) veterans.

He starts out on a ship. Was there alot of battles fought on the seas, during the Vietnam War? Then he get’s his own boat. How deep did he go into the really dangerous zones? All the pictures I’ve seen of Kerrys Vietnam experience, look like a few guys spending a weekend at the lake. I don’t think they had a clue what the real war that was being fought, was like. I think Kerry got a couple of small scratches (intentional or not), then took the purple hearts and filed for the ‘3rd time’s a charm’ free pass home. I am really curious of the exact extent of his injuries. The ony reason I even question, is because he is so flakey. I would actually be surprised if he didn’t plan the whole thing. If there is only a couple of witnesses, and they’re your buds…… His kind is not uncommon. They learn to work the system and let everyone else do the dirty work. From his stories, it sounds like he was the one shooting the innocent ,elderly, and children……..just because he was told he could.

I think his claim to being a ‘war hero’ is an insult to all those that were.

I’ve NEVER questioned any veteran’s integrity….but this guy gives me the creeps. Most veterans I know, were sickened everytime they heard Kerry and the other gypsy democrat candidates, on tv badmouthing their Commander in Chief when we had just gone to war. No facts for concern, just malicious bad mouthing. Leaves a terrible taste in your mouth. I’d like to hear Kerry tell some of the heros I know, about how tuff his experience in Viet Nam was. ‘Course he might not want to mention his behaviour since he returned from VN…...even though these guys are getting on up there in age, they’re still some tuff son of a guns.

Posted by: Jeff B at March 8, 2004 01:43 AM

Kerry’s tour, was in a relatively calm area, so he never saw much action at all.
previous to that, he was on a ship, where he personally shot an old man, a woman and a baby in a no fire zone. He had to be restrained, according to his commanding officer. After that, he had his own commission, where he miraculously picked up his 3 purple hearts and a bronze star for killing a wounded dying POW who was just raked over with a 50 cal dual deck gun.
(story here)
http://www.usvetdsp.com/jf_kerry.htm

The guy is a lying snake. he’s going to go down in flames long before Nov.

Posted by: Fat Guy at March 8, 2004 02:33 AM

Brother now as then we must watch each others back,if that slim ball gets elected all respect will be lost.

Posted by: Rob..NC at March 8, 2004 04:02 AM

Is he going to send Jane Fonda?

Posted by: popd at March 8, 2004 08:49 AM

Cut and Run Kerry knows how to play well with others??? That’s not the question. Question is do others know how to play well ith us? We got our answer after 9-11 when we asked the rest of the world to help us. Result. Only Britain stood up. A president who counts on foreigners is a FOOL.

Posted by: Ricky Vandal at March 8, 2004 11:19 AM

Great comments ‘fat guy’ , ‘Rob..NC’, ‘popd’ , ‘Ricky Vandal’. Maybe Hanoi Jane will be his VP candidate…

Kerry is such an easy target, it makes me suspicious. I just wonder, if Kerry goes down in flames…..let’s see….who might just come out of the woodwork to run for president? Do I smell H C ?

Posted by: Jeff B at March 8, 2004 08:47 PM

You know, I’m thinking exactly the same thing Jeff.

I don’t think Kerry can possibly make it to summer, never mind to november, If it wasn’t for the liberal press covering his ass so far, he’d already be in flames.
That doesn’t leave much left in the democrat pool.
But then, who will be her VP?
Maybe she’ll wait till ‘08 and use the time to clean up the party, that would be the smart thing to do, but then, the Democrats aren’t very smart….

Posted by: Fat Guy at March 9, 2004 03:09 AM

now that Iraq has signed it’s interm constitution, what is kerry’s team going to assess? It’s clear what Iraq is going to do, it’s clear what the USA’s role is,
it’s CLEAR THAT IT’S OF NO THANKS TO kERRY AND THE DEMOCRATS!

And, I think it would be clear that Kerry wouldn’t be very welcome in Iraq.

Bush, in one year, has spun that country completely around. An amazing accomplishment.
Historical. Now, if kerry and the anti-freedom democrats can keep their noses out of it, iraq has a damn good chance.

Posted by: Fat Guy at March 9, 2004 05:25 AM

Go Read the Time article on Kerry.

http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101040315/nkerry2.html

This is an excerpt.

In December, Kerry asked why countries like Germany and France would cooperate in the war on terrorism “after having been publicly castigated and even ridiculed for disagreeing over Iraq.” In fact, American counterterrorism officials say those two countries are among the U.S.’s most valuable allies, often better about cooperating than even the British, whose concern about civil liberties sometimes trumps security worries. Pressed on the point, Kerry folds. He says the lack of cooperation is elsewhere but is hard pressed to cite countries, finally mentioning “South Asia and the Middle East.”

Posted by: leaddog2 at March 9, 2004 10:25 AM

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