It will get even better when the Kerry/Jane Fonda pics start circulating.

Posted by: Frank at February 9, 2004 09:58 PM

I’d vote for a naked Jane Fonda.

Not for President … I’d just vote for it.

Posted by: Bruce at February 9, 2004 10:32 PM

and even better whe nhis national guard records are made public

Posted by: King6Kong at February 9, 2004 10:33 PM

Or this (courtesy of Instapundit):

http://www.tehrantimes.com/archives/Description.asp?Da=2/8/2004&Cat=2&Num=026

Posted by: cincinnatus at February 10, 2004 02:45 AM

Great NIC, cincinatus.

Thanks for the link. That is disturbing.With endorsments like that, you don’t need enemies.

Posted by: jones at February 10, 2004 06:36 AM

No wonder Iran is dragging it’s feet. If Kerry wins, they can develop their nukes freely, and if Bush remains in office, they can continue their policy of “Engagement” with Europe and avoid an invasion.

Posted by: Brian at February 10, 2004 09:33 AM

Careful.
Jonah Goldberg thinks that the above link to Tehran newpapaer is bogus (?).

Posted by: Dave at February 10, 2004 09:59 AM

The BoGlobe has some new Guard record documents showing credit for more Bush service, but I’m not sure how to get a link posted up in this joint. Will some person so empowered please take a look?

Posted by: DrSteve at February 10, 2004 10:02 AM

Here’s One

Here’s Another

example:

“The personnel records, covering Bush’s Guard service between May 1972 and May 1973, constitute the first evidence that Bush appeared for any duty during the first 11 months of that 12-month period. Bush is recorded as having served the minimum number of days expected of Guard members in that 12 months of service time.

One of the documents lists nine service periods of 2 to 3 days each and records the points Bush earned toward his service retirement benefit. The other is a summary of his service in the 12 months beginning May 1972, and lists the same number of service points earned.”

Of course you know, once this becomes well-known, the barking moonbats of the loony left will start redefining the meaning of the word ‘duty’.

Kerry was fully aware this would happen if the issue was pushed, which is why he is now dissing the National Guard.

Posted by: CERDIP at February 10, 2004 10:41 AM

CERDIP-

Hey, young fella…apparently you weren’t around when joining the Guard was a way of avoiding being drafted. Available to the rich and famous. Just like this admin.

Richard Cohen (commie, pinko, just look at that long hair and beard, WaPo-HQ in Moscow) has a column about this here.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27178-2004Feb9.html

Not that you’d necessarily want to go to the trouble, but compare Bush’s autobio with those recently released records. Don’t add up. Kinda like a lot of things, huh? Oh, also heard that the Boston Globe got those documents from the guy who runs www.democrats.com. Is this the kind of tainted information you want to use to try to exonerate Chickenhawk in Chief?

Don’t take offense, an admittedly feeble attempt at humor. I’m trying to emulate my man Al Franken. I’ve already got the body slam down.

In all seriousness, i’ve been worrying that the Justice Department may be monitoring this site for anti-war/anti-admin posts. does anyone know if they are issuing subpoenas here like they did in Des Moines?

Wealthy Massachusets Liberals for Bush - if you have to ask, you don’t belong.

Posted by: carl at February 10, 2004 11:44 AM

I just hope Iran and North Korea can hold on till after the election. Other wise Bush will get the credit and Kerry will be taken by his wife for a long vacation. The just have to hold on for a little over 10 months. How hard can that be?

Posted by: M. Simon at February 10, 2004 11:57 AM

hurray! that means only 100 million people in the country don’t like the job that bush is doing! what a bang-up president we have!

Posted by: x at February 10, 2004 12:00 PM

If 100% of the US population agree on anything I’ll be concerned X. Now go crawl back under your bridge.

Posted by: Brian at February 10, 2004 12:12 PM

carl, enlisting was a way of avoiding the draft too.

Posted by: wafflestomper at February 10, 2004 12:40 PM

cart you old fart, I was certainly around then- the story on the street at the time was if you wanted to avoid Nam- join the Guard or the Navy, as long as you didn’t fly and didn’t volunteer for anything, you were safe. Of course, Bush did fly and he volunteered for ‘Palace Alert’ but was turned down because he hadn’t enough experience. ‘Palace Alert’ was the program that sent National Guard pilots to Vietnam.

I thought that bad-mouthing the National Guard was a cheap shot back then, and still do. If it isn’t honourable to join the National Guard, why have one ?

If you want to trust your country to a showboating ticket-puncher that shoots wounded enemy soldiers in the head when they are trying to surrender, you go ahead. If you do, I’ll be gone fishing when he does his glad-handing photo op with bin Laden at the White House. I want to be far enough north to avoid the radioative fall-out when NYC eats a Ukrainian Tactical Nuke.

Posted by: CERDIP at February 10, 2004 12:45 PM

carl, what autobiography on bush should we be using for the comparison? perhaps you meant one of the biographies first son, fortunate son, or a charge to keep, or maybe to keep a charge which, unlike the others, was written by bush but not about him? ah, hell, why go through the trouble…

Posted by: wafflestomper at February 10, 2004 01:00 PM

Waffle-
autobiography means the one the guy wrote himself—A Charge To Keep. For sure you’ve got a copy. Find the part about how Georg talks about flying jets for years. doesn’t add up with the cockamamie story about Guard service. You got me…one could enlist, but what would the point be? I don’t recall an advantage.

CERDIP
Not dissing the Guard. Saying that it was available to the elite. Obviously now the Guard is not a valid comparison (although the RNC is using it that way). Guardsmen are doing extended service in Iraq. Bush left months early to become a CEO in training.

Yeah, those nukular devices that have not been accounted for are a concern. That scares me to death. Also concerned about the designs for American nukular power plants that were discovered in Afghanistan. The Prez mentioned them in his 2002 State of the Union to Congress. Oooh, oooh, wait a minute. They didn’t actually find any. It was just a figure of speech (highly detailed). Reported by WSJ (left wing, commie, pinko, comic book for CEOs).

Isn’t that the whole point?…keep the American people frightened so that we will trust our well-being to the Admin. So that we will support Ashcroft/Bush transgressions against the Bill of Rights—right to keep and bear arms/good; right to peaceable assembly/communist, unpatriotic

Southerners for Bush—he kinda talks like us.

Posted by: carl at February 10, 2004 01:32 PM

Stomper,
One other thing…
Your last comment - why bother? - is exactly what Karl, Georg, Johann and Reichard are hoping the American people will do.

Listen to the $200 million in TV ads, listen to the false attacks coming from unknown groups (not the RNC or Bush/Cheney campaign), watch while Bush personally goes to Afghanistan to capture OBL, or wait for some other dreadful military reason to reward Boy Georg for his incredible performance.

Wait, wait, don’t take my TV, don’t take my house, I’m watching the President. And he said the economy is good.

Posted by: carl at February 10, 2004 01:39 PM

a charge to keep was ghost-written by karen hughes.

thanks for the definition. we now both understand what constitutes an autobiography.

Posted by: wafflestomper at February 10, 2004 02:01 PM

ohhhh. you were looking for advantages, not ways of avoiding the draft. enlistees that lost their lives had all the same advantages of the guardsmen who lost their lives in vn. or perhaps you have a little contempt for the guardsmen that were too stupid to know that they weren’t sposed to get kilt when they joined up?

Posted by: wafflestomper at February 10, 2004 02:15 PM

Carl, want to provide a link to the WSJ story ?

Seems strange that Al-Qaeda wouldn’t have diagrams of US Nuke plants, since up until 2002, such diagrams wre available on the net, as sales and PR tools.

Posted by: CERDIP at February 10, 2004 02:18 PM

Waffle, you ole kidder. I was pretty sure that you knew what an autobiography was. Keeping me on my toes, huh?

Here’s the URL at Amazon. Or is this another attempt by GWB to deceive. It says the book’s authors are GWB and Karen Hughes. We need to split hairs when it comes to Presidents, don’t we?

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0688174418/qid=1076440653/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/104-6824604-8323937?v=glance&s=books

Perhaps another situation where he doesn’t do so well when he’s on his own. Peggy Noonan got it right—he should stick to reading the words of his speechwriters on the Teleprompter. He’s got fantastic delivery. He’s even got the Clinton tear-in-the-eye thing down.

Don’t have any contempt for anyone who served. Contempt, stupidity…don’t know where those ideas came from…wait, wait, i know. It came from you. You ole kidder.

Posted by: carl at February 10, 2004 02:27 PM

CERDIP-

You have to be a paid subscriber to access the article (capitalist paper). It’s at this URL:

http://users2.wsj.com/WebIntegration/WebIntegrationServlet?call=L_L&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2F0%2C%2CSB107638468090025378-search%2C00.html%3Fcollection%3Dautowire%252F30day%26vql_string%3Dhitt%253Cin%253E%2528article%252Dbody%2529

Also being reported in newspapers with national readership. I first saw it here (no subscription required; commie paper).
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/politics/administration/whbriefing/
about half way down the page “Never mind, Part II?”

Yeah, why wouldn’t they have plans? But this is what someone from the White House said (apparently).

al Qaeda/Taliban were/are bad juju. No question. But why mislead? I’m not even so concerned about the information, but about the pattern of deception. From the crew that was about restoring honor to the White House.

During these times, i can’t imagine that anyone would want to be President. More power to ‘em.

Posted by: carl at February 10, 2004 02:41 PM

“poorly served by a speechwriter.”

Hmmm, if it’s true, then that seems likely.

Posted by: CERDIP at February 10, 2004 02:52 PM

you always have to watch out for presidential deception, for sure.
if only the prez could be as transparent as a ny senator.
it takes a village… and a completely invisible ghostwriter
who is barbara feinman todd anyway? and how about
living history…through other peoples eyes
muscatine, vollers, and shamir must not have contributed much
since they don’t seem to warrant any credit on amazon.

Posted by: wafflestomper at February 10, 2004 03:18 PM

Waffler

i take it all back…either of the Clintons is a bigger liar than GWB. But isn’t she a doll on the cover of Living? What was Bill thinking? I think he got messed up getting into the porn websites. oh, he was governor before Al invented the Internet?

this is really off subject, my apologies…but how do you do that cool thing with the links? Your posts look so much better than mine.

Posted by: carl at February 10, 2004 03:51 PM

to link to msn.com, type:
type <a href=”http://www.msn.com”> bill gates owes me money</a>
bill gates owes me money

just swap out the address between the quotes and the link text.
preview your post and try your link (i sometimes put in broken links)

other tags are
<i>italics</i>
<b>bold</b>

whenever you see something cool, you can right click on the page and (View Page Source)
to see what the person typed to get the effect (ignore this particular post to avoid confusion)

the thread has screwy margins on my browser i think because the address
you provided earlier was so long without any spaces, so when i did my
subsequent post, i put in a few returns.

i practiced on old threads until i finally got it. good luck, carl.

Posted by: wafflestomper at February 10, 2004 04:49 PM

thank you, wafflestomper

you know, us old farts have to keep up

Posted by: carl at February 10, 2004 05:00 PM

yeah, i’m racing among the leaders, but unfortunately i’m two laps behind.

Posted by: wafflestomper at February 10, 2004 05:13 PM

a minor correction…
you don’t need to type “type” before the <a href….

i just put that in so i could write this confusing correction

Posted by: wafflestomper at February 10, 2004 05:17 PM