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Posted by Alan at November 30, 2003 03:23 PM | TrackBack
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“The Democrats Have Made Lying Their Norm”

Posted by Gordon Bloyer
Saturday, August 16, 2003

A Democrat claims that the economy is the worst since Herbert Hoover. No reporter says to that Democrat, ”That’s not true.” Why?

Reporters today have no background in history and they do no research. They seem to think when a Democrat says something it is an opinion, or just a point of view. It never crosses their mind that the Democrat is lying.

The Democrats running for president get away with saying that the president lied about the war, that we are in a recession, that unemployment is out of control, that we have the largest budget deficit in history, that budgets for safety-net programs have been cut, and that the election in 2000 was stolen. None of these statements are true—not even close—but reporters just let them slide.

Senator Joe Biden (D), Senator Joe Lieberman (D) and Senator Evan Bayh (D) have all said on national television that the president did NOT lie about the war. Why don’t reporters confront the other Democrats with their statements?

The fact is that the economy has been growing for months. A recession is when the economy is negative for three months in a row.

Bill Clinton was president from 1993 thru 2000. Unemployment was higher than the current rate in five out of the eight Clinton years. It was over 6% in three of those years. If the Democrats told the truth, they would say that we have the worst economy since Clinton. The fact is in the last six months of the Clinton years, the economy was headed down and continued that way for several months into the Bush Administration.

The deficit in dollars is the largest in history. That is meaningless. My debt is higher than ever, but it is smaller in relation to my income. It is the same for the deficit. The deficit in relation to the budget is not close to being the largest in history.

No programs have been cut. All programs have increases in their budget, just not as big as the Democrats want or dream about. Life is hard.

All recounts in Florida, including the newspaper statewide recounts, had Bush winning the election. In the Al Gore lawsuit, he never asked for a statewide recount. In the places where Gore asked for a recount the newspaper recount proved that Bush won. How did Bush steal the election?

Let me add these facts for the reporters. In 1980, the last year of Jimmy Carter, inflation was 13.5%, interest rates were over 18%, and unemployment was 5.8% and headed up. How is that for the worst economy since Herbert Hoover? The unemployment rate under Franklin Roosevelt was 24.9% in 1933, 21.7% in 1934, 20.1% in 1935, 16.9% in 1936, 14.3% in 1937, 19% in 1938 and 17.2% in 1939. All of these rates were higher than three out of four of the Hoover years. World War II came along and everyone went to work.

One more thing: President Bush was NEVER AWOL. Get over it.

The truth about all of the above is available by doing research. Why don’t reporters do it? They have allowed the Democratic lies to become the norm.

Gordon Bloyer

Posted by: Mark at December 25, 2003 07:45 AM

Why should I vote for Gepphardt???

Posted by: B at December 29, 2003 06:52 PM

Dear Mr. President Carter,

I don’t think you need to be reminded that this is an unprecedented time in our nation’s history. Four more years of a Bush presidency coupled with an extreme right wing congressional agenda could permanently damage the social contract that has existed between the government and the governed since the FDR administration.

I understand your hesitation to endorse a Democratic candidate so early in the process given your position as our party’s most respected elder statesman. However, Mr. President, I implore you to make a statement regarding the vitriolic attacks of the current leading Democratic candidate, Gov. Howard Dean, towards his Democratic rival candidates for the nomination. There is no question that you love this country with a passion. I ask you, I beg of you, to use your status and influence to intervene in the nomination process to halt the ugliness of the rhetoric and the personal attacks by Gov. Dean, in particular. Saying overtly that Gov. Dean cannot win a general election. Indeed our nation can ill afford Howard Dean as our next president.
Again, I respect your position in not endorsing any single candidate. Again, I ask you to release a statement or find some media venue to get out the message to all Democratic campaigns to return Governor Dean to Vermont.

God Bless you, Mr. President.

Posted by: Mark at January 2, 2004 07:20 AM

Hi,
I’m a Clark supporter, just want to say I thought it was pretty sleazey of Harkin to endorse Dean today. I know how hard your guy has fought for farmers n unions. I just don’t get it.
Good luck.

Posted by: mjv at January 9, 2004 02:04 PM

A Democrat claims that the economy is the worst since Herbert Hoover. No reporter says to that Democrat, ”That’s not true.” Why?

Cuz It is true my poor misinformed friend. Is there no limit to how little you know? Are you living in the same place as I do.

Reporters today have no background in history and they do no research. They seem to think when a Democrat says something it is an opinion, or just a point of view. It never crosses their mind that the Democrat is lying.

Perhaps we don`t all see things from your point of view. Do you have a point to make?

The Democrats running for president get away with saying that the president lied about the war,

YES!

that we are in a recession, that unemployment is out of control, that we have the largest budget deficit in history,

YES!

that budgets for safety-net programs have been cut, and that the election in 2000 was stolen.

YES! Again

So where have you been? On vacation in the Grand Camens. I`m wanting to hear something I don`t already know..

None of these statements are true—not even close—but reporters just let them slide.

Well I`m living what you say isn`t true..Who the hell do you think your talking to. We don`t need to be TOLD. Like you! How the state of affairs are.
You must have just woke up from a long nap to start telling us what is and isn`t true, Democrats have always been better informed than republicans, Always.

Senator Joe Biden (D), Senator Joe Lieberman (D) and Senator Evan Bayh (D) have all said on national television that the president did NOT lie about the war. Why don’t reporters confront the other Democrats with their statements?

Show Me Da WOMD !

The fact is that the economy has been growing for months. A recession is when the economy is negative for three months in a row.

Thats a flat outright lie. People going to work should reflect the unimployment rate.Da! That is the economy! period.
When they can no longer recieve help and fall by the way side you Can`t count them as now employed. And thats what your hero republicans do to make it sound like employment rates are up. So lets set it right, You only know what your republican s tell you, you need to know.

Bill Clinton was president from 1993 thru 2000. Unemployment was higher than the current rate in five out of the eight Clinton years. It was over 6% in three of those years.

Simply not even close to the truth , Jobs were not going overseas then like they are now.

If the Democrats told the truth, they would say that we have the worst economy since Clinton. The fact is in the last six months of the Clinton years, the economy was headed down and continued that way for several months into the Bush Administration.

Your right its way worse than Clinton`s economy. In fact I`ll tell you its the worst I`ve seen in 50 years.

Under Clinton 2000 jobs were produced every 3 HOURS. With Bush it took the whole month of December to produce 1000 temp hoiday jobs. Your a joke..

The deficit in dollars is the largest in history. That is meaningless.

So why do you think so many people care about it?

My debt is higher than ever, but it is smaller in relation to my income.

I dont care about your personal problems!

It is the same for the deficit. The deficit in relation to the budget is not close to being the largest in history.

You don`t get it do you!! The Government dosen`t make money! Its OUR Money Unless you count Reagen trading Cocaine for wepons.

No programs have been cut. All programs have increases in their budget, just not as big as the Democrats want or dream about. Life is hard.

Tell that to law infocement and to the school systems. Oh and explain this to our highway departments and don`t forget osha , Parks dept`s And the vets cut by one billion. You make me want to puke!!!
You should watch cspan as often as I do. To see what goes on, To hear everything second hand as you do only distorts your judgment Watch your Republicans at work listen to what they say on the senate floor . It will make a Democrat out of you. You listen too to much Lush Bimbo. “Just makes you look stupid”

All recounts in Florida, including the newspaper statewide recounts, had Bush winning the election. In the Al Gore lawsuit, he never asked for a statewide recount. In the places where Gore asked for a recount the newspaper recount proved that Bush won. How did Bush steal the election?

You need to stay with one election, But Bush did not win that election! The screwed up supreme court appointed him. Bush lost fair and square. So get over it.

Let me add these facts for the reporters. In 1980, the last year of Jimmy Carter, inflation was 13.5%, interest rates were over 18%, and unemployment was 5.8% and headed up. How is that for the worst economy since Herbert Hoover?

Why don`t you ask Allen Greenspan about this fact , If you knew anything about interest rates and its relation to the economy you would know this simple fact. The fed controles the interest rate ! Not the President.

The unemployment rate under Franklin Roosevelt was 24.9% in 1933, 21.7% in 1934, 20.1% in 1935, 16.9% in 1936, 14.3% in 1937, 19% in 1938 and 17.2% in 1939. All of these rates were higher than three out of four of the Hoover years. World War II came along and everyone went to work.

Hoover let the stock market fall apart.Go live in a Hooverville. He should have put freezes into effect.
And the War Didn`t put everyone to work Putting money into infrastructure such as building Dams, power plants and getting cheep power to industry got people to work. The war. Got people like my Mom to work and people like my Father in the war!

One more thing: President Bush was NEVER AWOL. Get over it. >

Oh Yes he was !

The truth about all of the above is available by doing research. Why don’t reporters do it? They have allowed the Democratic lies to become the norm.

Why do Republicans always call an argument from a reliable opposite point of view a lie. Sound`s like a loser !

Posted by: S Pestersen at January 11, 2004 05:12 PM

Tomorrow on E-Bay you will find that they are selling pieces of the caucus set you will see on T.V., But each piece is a picture of that candidate and that candidate will personally sign it and put on a message on there for you. So look tomorrow on ebay for personally autographed caucus set pieces, would be something special for anyone looking for Gephardt memorabilia.

Posted by: stockinghat4 at January 17, 2004 04:06 PM

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